Real Or Fake ?

[MarcB]

Was doing my daily round via Ebay and seen these.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-Clio-Trophy-Sachs-Damper-Sticker-set-/201031838636


It says that they are a rare genuine set but I'm failing to see it as i have the following from Renault UK

 

[CrippsCorner]

How did you get yours? From what I've seen they are quite rare and hard to get hold of.

 

[MarcB]

How did you get yours? From what I've seen they are quite rare and hard to get hold of.

I spent over year fighting with Renault UK and the last e-mail i got about this was -



Hello Mr Riddle

Thank you for the reply and the very kind words. I am very pleased to hear that you have received the stickers, and I received the kind email that you have sent to our CEO. Thank you again; I know that it was quite a wait for the stickers. We do value all of our customers and do our utmost to assist with enquiries.

I understand you have some further questions about the Sachs suspension stickers, I have provided some information below:

1, Can anyone get these stickers?
I am very sorry to say that you are the only customer who has been able to receive the stickers, this was a very extreme exception and unlikely it will happen again.
2, Are these stickers something that renault sell?
Renault is unable to sell these stickers, the stickers are not something either Renault or Sachs supply on their own - Sachs specialise in shock absorbers and Renault specialise in the car.
3, Would it be possible for 1 more set as i have 2 sets of suspension units?
While we are more than happy to assist you with your original request I do apologise as we will not be able to furnish you with any further stickers.
4, Do you have a direct contact regarding these stickers?
I am very sorry but the communication channel used to obtain these stickers was from our Head Office, to Renault France and then to a contact in Dieppe. I do not have the direct contact to Sach as this was via our Head Office.

Harry is currently on holiday until the 7th and will have a colleague to manage the continuity of his case in his absence.

I am very sorry that we will not be able to obtain any more stickers, however, if you do have any future questions or queries about Renault UK products or services, please know that you are more than welcome to contact me personally via the details below.

Thank you again for contacting Renault Customer Relations.

Kind regards

 

[Chi]

Can't you just copy them?

 

[coleman]

Can't a decent sticker/Decal guy just copy them? It's not like its a TV.

 

[CrippsCorner]

Well it seems you fought hard to get them, and this guy probably did too. It's a very personal response and he probably spoke to someone different... you get a different answer whenever you ask people like this! They certainly look real enough to me.

 

[Chi]

Seems a shame to use them lol

 

[R-Sport.]

F*K it I bought the last set - they wont be hard to sell I I don't use them

the only difference is the ZF logo as opposed to sachs logo.

S

 

[MarcB]

The colours look totally different also but maybe its just me.

I have bought a set also just to see the difference between mine and these.

 

[R-Sport.]

LOL we will both have them then-

Ah well- they will sell easy enough.

You can sell the fake ones with your real invoice from Renault

 

[R-Sport.]

Hi Steve

Yes they are 100% genuine but I don't have anything from Renault as they came via a motorsport contact.

They do have the Sachs hologram on them which would cost a fortune to replicate.

I'm sure you won't be disappointed as there is no alternative and I've never seen them come up for sale before.

I have several sets left but wanted to test the water with 5 sets to start with as I was unsure at what to price them at.

I'm happy to refund you the £20 if you are really un happy with them, if they are returned to me in perfect condition.

 

[bloke]

who do i complain to? i thought this was going to be about boobs

 

[mossyv6]

I have just bought some from ebay and they were £16?

 

[LiamR172]

They are different to your stickers Marc.. yours have the flag, they have a track?

 

[Bobby.]

They must love you at RUK, Marc, lol.

 

[Daz.]

I'm curious!

What were these circumstances? I mean how come you needed them and why did they send them you?

 

[MarcB]

They are different to your stickers Marc.. yours have the flag, they have a track?

Yeah they are different to my stickers. I have the OE ones that where on the suspension as standard when it came out the factory.
The Ebay seller says that these are OE and that sachs have modified them with a different background and hologram

They must love you at RUK, Marc, lol.

I have an on-going case with them just now and its only been 2 months but hoping for an answer soon enough.

I'm curious!

What were these circumstances? I mean how come you needed them and why did they send them you?

1) I have no idea what the circumstances were.
2) I wanted them to put on my sachs suspension as the suspension will be refurbished and once these stickers are off there is no way of replacing them (Unless You Have Spares)
3) Im guessing they sent them as i had a good point and argument to back my point up. They did say that they would not send them again incase of people trying to copy them on units that are not 100% genuine renault items as this could cause damage to a car.

 

[LiamR172]

Ahright.. so they are OE but not OE? :s

Seems odd you would get something OE then have it changed? Haha

 

[MarcB]

Ahright.. so they are OE but not OE? :s

Seems odd you would get something OE then have it changed? Haha

The Ones that came on the suspension as standard from Renault and the set i have are below




The seller on ebay is selling these ones





And the sellers advert states -

For sale are extremely rare sets of genuine replacement Sachs Damper stickers. They have the correct Clio Trophy part numbers on them and are printed on the newer ZF group base stickers which have replaced the original Sachs Only ones. The only differences being that they say ZF instead of Sachs in the bottom corner and the background boarder is a different image. They have the correct Hologram and part numbers as per the originals. You will receive a pair of rears with the same numbers and 1 of each of the fronts so 4 in total. These are 100% genuine and brand new. To my knowledge replacement stickers have never come up for sale before and although these are a newer style of background sticker they are better than nothing especially if you have had your front Sachs powder coated. They will be protected with cardboard and posted 1st class recorded delivery.

 

[Daz.]

Yeah they are different to my stickers. I have the OE ones that where on the suspension as standard when it came out the factory.
The Ebay seller says that these are OE and that sachs have modified them with a different background and hologram



I have an on-going case with them just now and its only been 2 months but hoping for an answer soon enough.



1) I have no idea what the circumstances were.
2) I wanted them to put on my sachs suspension as the suspension will be refurbished and once these stickers are off there is no way of replacing them (Unless You Have Spares)
3) Im guessing they sent them as i had a good point and argument to back my point up. They did say that they would not send them again incase of people trying to copy them on units that are not 100% genuine renault items as this could cause damage to a car.

Ahh - I worded that wrong


I'm just surprised they agreed I guess, I thought you must have some compromising pictures of some of the senior management

 

[jaysmith]

Ahright.. so they are OE but not OE? :s

Seems odd you would get something OE then have it changed? Haha

Was speaking to a guy who deal with ZF and i asked about these, they are oe but sachs dont print them anymore. ZF who own sachs have all the orignal prints etc and because ther has been a high demand for old stickers etc ZF has decided to print only so many of each stickers for manufacturers again.

 

[Rich..]

Ahright.. so they are OE but not OE? :s

Seems odd you would get something OE then have it changed? Haha

It's like some kind of Riddle.

 

[MarcB]

I bought a fair few to go with my ones given to my from Renault UK