Really hard decision :(

[Bloooor]

Ive been thinking over the past few days wot I want to do with my 1.4 ph2. Ive had it for 2 years and its my first car, awww, I was thinking of I could get on a fleet insurance by february I could maybe get a 182 engine put into my car and then at some stage Turbo it ! The only thing thats stopping me is not knowing what my interests would be when I get older. Ive always wanted an Aston Martin v8 vantage... but thats neva gonna happen lol so I mite go for something like a skyline wen im about 21-25 and then turbo that. I dont kno whether to keep my 1.4, convert it to 182 turbo or to jus keep it with Rims, exaust, induction kit n tints and then buy a skyline or something later on when im about 25ish. Hate not knowing what the future holds lol. If anyones got any experiences with there first cars n things that went wrong/right for them would be freat to hear them

Thnx

 

[Middo]

i think most of the people on here who have done engine conversions will discourage you from attempting one, they're just so damn expensive and difficult. Best to just get the 172 in the first place

 

[Djw Dave]

I wouldnt bother putting a 182 lump in it. If it was me i would build up through the ranks (1.4 to 1.8 to 2.0 etc) and then look into the skyline at say 25.

Oh and some skylines already had turbos

 

[Djw Dave]

i think most of the people on here who have done engine conversions will discourage you from attempting one, they're just so damn expensive and difficult. Best to just get the 172 in the first place

Tell me about it

<-----------------

 

[Bloooor]

I was thinking of jus getting the 172 but then it wouldnt be as unique. putting a 182 into a billabong frame is like improving my first car rather than jus buying a seperate car. Like if your baby had a brain tumour and you got him a new brain lol instead of swapping your baby. Quite a bad comparison but this car is my baby lol

 

[rob172cup]

brain tumour f**king hell just get a 172/182

 

[Middo]

i think most of the people on here who have done engine conversions will discourage you from attempting one, they're just so damn expensive and difficult. Best to just get the 172 in the first place

Tell me about it

<-----------------

one of many people with problems!

if you wanna know if its worth it pm adamhodg and i'm sure he'll put u straight. seriously the problems u encounter are ridiculous. Cheaper to just buy a 172 and then turbo it, will still be unique

 

[Bloooor]

I wouldnt bother putting a 182 lump in it. If it was me i would build up through the ranks (1.4 to 1.8 to 2.0 etc) and then look into the skyline at say 25.

not really thought about this to much. Probably because its just like having a standard car up until im 25 (Standard meaning not unique, not slow lol) I just have this vision of getting a 182 put into my billabong and showing it off to my mates when im only 19 lol sounds quite big headed I know but I like making other people smile or doing things that most people dont do because I have the money to do them.

 

[Bloooor]

one of many people with problems!

if you wanna know if its worth it pm adamhodg and i'm sure he'll put u straight. seriously the problems u encounter are ridiculous. Cheaper to just buy a 172 and then turbo it, will still be unique

I wouldnt do it myself as I dont have much experience with cars but one of my mates has said that K-tecracing do a good price on the conversion.

 

[Boz]

Suspension, brakes etc won't be upto the job of a 2.0 on your 1.4.
Listen to experience mate and buy the car set up for the power when you can get insured etc. It will be safer, more reliable, cost less to do and have better resale value.

 

[Bloooor]

it says that things like that will be upgraded which is all included in the price. I know you have all heard of this site but I have posted the link below with the conversion details.

http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2098

 

[jayxx83]

Yea, just buy the car in the first place. Ph Quicks can be had for ressonable money now and insurance shouldnt be too bad if you have a year or two ncd.

How do you know youll never afford that Aston? The sky is the limit mate, it has been made to be purchased!

 

[Middo]

it says that things like that will be upgraded which is all included in the price. I know you have all heard of this site but I have posted the link below with the conversion details.

http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2098

3k? you'll also need to buy a good set of coilovers to make the car handle anywhere near as well as a 172. Your hung up on this 'i wanna be unique thing' but i dont see why u cant just buy a ph 1 172, and then make that unique, for the same money and incovenience as an engine conversion you could have cams, coilovers, full exhaust system etc. you can pick up a ph1 172 for 3.5k. The only people i know of on here have done the conversions themselves to save cost, otherwise it really isnt worth it.

 

[Bloooor]

haha true, true that Aston WILL BE MINE! better? lol. Also for everyone who is saying I should get a 172 how much are they around about now? £7-£8k?

(sorry posted to slow)

 

[RobHardyUK]

just buy a 172. it will be worth more when u sell it on then aswell. engine 3k, brakes 1k, suspension 500 quid... etc etc. js buy one.

and turboing a skyline? GTS is single turbo and GTR twin. You've not done much research really.

 

[Bloooor]

just buy a 172. it will be worth more when u sell it on then aswell. engine 3k, brakes 1k, suspension 500 quid... etc etc. js buy one.

and turboing a skyline? GTS is single turbo and GTR twin. You've not done much research really.

erm.. sorry :$ was just trying to put across that if I bourght a skyline I would want to tune it up. It was an example, I didnt mean a Skyline was for definate was just the car I thought of at that moment.

 

[Middo]

haha true, true that Aston WILL BE MINE! better? lol. Also for everyone who is saying I should get a 172 how much are they around about now? £7-£8k?

(sorry posted to slow)

a good ph1 on a lowish mileage (about 30k) your talking about 4k. ph2 5k, 182 8k

very very cheap

 

[Bloooor]

Id preffere to get a newish car around 2003 or something like the one I have now. I the only problem I have is getting it insured.. If I cant get on a fleet insurance then Im gonna have to go as a second driver on my mums insurance (mmmm 13 years no claims....) But it seems buying a ph2 2003 172 is the best option?

 

[clio__chris]

im in a similar situation as i dont drive my car very much

i figured sell my car sometime next year and get a shitter until i have need of a decentish car and in the mean time the money can go towards the purchase of a house.....

 

[Middo]

I'd get a ph1 172 tbh, not that i'm biased or anything but they're much rarer and really dont feel like an 'old' car. engines are pretty much bombproof on em as well and you get little things like cable throttle, better airbox etc, basically better for carrying engine mods.

just out of interest i'm 21 NCB on my own insurance and pay 1300 with suspension, steering wheel and other mods included

 

[Bloooor]

Im not sure about the ph1 mate, sorry but just like the ph2 better hense why I have a 1.4 ph2 now another thing I wanted to ask is it true that the 172 is actually quicker than the 182... and if so how come? Is it just lighter?

Also does anyone know the best place to buy a ph2 172? would it be ebay or from a dealership?

 

[Neil G]

Mmmmm Skylines have a turbo....infact the GTR has two of them lol

At 25 as well....you better get saving

 

[edde]

I was thinking of jus getting the 172 but then it wouldnt be as unique. putting a 182 into a billabong frame is like improving my first car rather than jus buying a seperate car.

Its to much effort realy buy a 172 and make it look like a 1.2 is much better. Do a tranplant and the parts costs become irrelevent you always need other bits.

I wouldnt do it myself as I dont have much experience with cars but one of my mates has said that K-tecracing do a good price on the conversion.

Its only worth it if its free labout even then its not worth it realy unless you have a unique car.

Suspension, brakes etc won't be upto the job of a 2.0 on your 1.4.
Listen to experience mate and buy the car set up for the power

1.2 and 2.0 shells are exactly the same.
You idealy use the suspension and brakes hube etc from the 2172 so there no issue there.

3k? you'll also need to buy a good set of coilovers to make the car handle anywhere near as well as a 172. Your hung up on this 'i wanna be unique thing' but i dont see why u cant just buy a ph 1 172, and then make that unique, for the same money and incovenience as an engine conversion you could have cams, coilovers, full exhaust system etc. you can pick up a ph1 172 for 3.5k. The only people i know of on here have done the conversions themselves to save cost, otherwise it really isnt worth it.

Converted car will handle the same as a 172 though same body shell brakes etc though.

I agree though buy a 172 its cheaper then the parts alone often.

 

[Neil G]

Still f**king about though....best off buying the 172

 

[Bloooor]

How much could I get for my 1.4 do you think? I bourght it for £5300 about 2 months ago.

 

[J182sport]

just buy the 172 mate saves all the bother and will cost the same if not less! and you get all the toys in the Full Fat! if you get the Ph2 your car is a Ph2 so the wheels and other bits you have will fit!! not exhaust suspension tho!...

half leather ect all the good factors you have with the 172 FF and iv seen them as low as 5,500k

 

[Bloooor]

just buy the 172 mate saves all the bother and will cost the same if not less! and you get all the toys in the Full Fat! if you get the Ph2 your car is a Ph2 so the wheels and other bits you have will fit!! not exhaust suspension tho!...

half leather ect all the good factors you have with the 172 FF and iv seen them as low as 5,500k

What are all the different models for the 172? Like you said FF which I presume Reanult have called one of there clios the 'clio 172 FULL FAT' model LOL sorry for being a newbie to this lol gotta start sumwhere!

 

[J182sport]

the full fat model we call it is the 172 with all the toys like half leather climate control/AC rain sensor wipers auto lights Cruise control ect.and thn there is a CUP model non of the spec thiner glass cloth seats ..

 

[Bloooor]

ahh ok so would it be better jus goi for a 182 model seing as though I want to be comfy aswell as fast lol?

 

[J182sport]

the 182 performance wise is only different because of the exhaust manifold! you wont go any faster its just a choice you have to make really what you want to spend ect.the spec is the same as the Full fat 172 bar a few tweeks here an there! but not alot, oh and the exhuasts! plus if you go for the 182 there is other things to worry about like do you buy the 182 with both cup packs or without!! or jus ththe cup model! haha..

im buying a 182 with both cup packs but will be 8-9k tho.

 

[edde]

How much could I get for my 1.4 do you think? I bourght it for £5300 about 2 months ago.

ahh ok so would it be better jus goi for a 182 model seing as though I want to be comfy aswell as fast lol?

Renault made the
172 normal car first called the full fat my many on here it has the leather seats Climate control etc.
Then they made the 172 Cup no abs basic interier different suspension wheel etc

Then they made the normal 182 again called full fat and the owners had an option of Cup suspension packs and Cup spolier kit but they had the leather seats etc. The Cup pack was different to the 172 Cup setup

Then they made a 182 Cup which was a 182 without the zeons leather seats etc but with ABS and air con. They had the Cup suspension pack as standard its differet though the 172 CUp its the same as the option was on the normal 182's

 

[Tim172]

ahh ok so would it be better jus goi for a 182 model seing as though I want to be comfy aswell as fast lol?

None of them are Mercs, expect all of them to be significantly harsher than your current one, and they will all be equally faster (more or less, coming from smaller engines anyway.. runs)

 

[edde]

the 182 performance wise is only different because of the exhaust manifold!

Different ECU maps though to make the extra power plus its got a whole different cat and exhaust system which are better.


You never said what milage your is on I don't think assuming 30k

Part-exchange Price:
Excellent condition: £3880
Average condition: £3510
Below average condition: £3120

another thing I wanted to ask is it true that the 172 is actually quicker than the 182... and if so how come? Is it just lighter?

Also does anyone know the best place to buy a ph2 172? would it be ebay or from a dealership?

Shoep round there laods of them for sale no best place to look realy.

172 is about as quick you get good and bad ones. 182 has longer gears and less weight (no spare wheel like the Cup) but there the same realy.

 

[dave99uk]

Im in same situation tho im only 17 but i really fancy putting a k tec engine conversion in my 1.4 in a year or two cause everything else about it will be complete. Or do i just buy 172 and lower it with nice alloys?

 

[edde]

Im in same situation tho im only 17 but i really fancy putting a k tec engine conversion in my 1.4 in a year or two cause everything else about it will be complete. Or do i just buy 172 and lower it with nice alloys?

Its not worth it just buy a 172. You end up spending mre than a 172 cost to buy after a conversion and don't get all the bits.

 

[Neil G]

Im in same situation tho im only 17 but i really fancy putting a k tec engine conversion in my 1.4 in a year or two cause everything else about it will be complete. Or do i just buy 172 and lower it with nice alloys?

Buy the best 172/182 for your money (cup or full fat) and forget the f**king alloys.

 

[Bloooor]

Hey guys, I have found quite a ncie looking 172 but just wanted to see what you guys though. Too expensive? hate the colour? Is there anything that doesnt look to good? Mileage etc (ITS THE 2ND ONE DOWN)


RENAULT Clio 2.0 16V Renaultsport 172
http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/ww...category=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200649260775470

Thnx, Adam

 

[Tim172]

Too much for the age IMO although it'll be worth more with sat nav and hands free kit etc but depends whether you want those bits

 

[Middo]

way to expensive, wait for a good one come up on here for a grand less