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Shotgun people, GTFIn pls



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Goodj

  Listerine & Poledo
Afternoon.

The old man and I were pricing up cartridges for Duck hunting over the wash. He's currently using bismuth (with 3-shot) but at £24 a box, they're a little steep. Reloading costs aren't much nicer either,

Thing is, there's some confusion about the use of steel shot. BASC is showing that 2 different bodies are advising different proofing strengths for the gun, and 2 different choke recommendations. One saying 1/4 choke, the other half.

This is possibly the biggest longshot (pun happened, deal with it) thread I've posted, but is anyone out there using a classic light-game gun (pref 12-gauge) and any experience with steel shot? Last thing the old man wants is pitted and bulged barrels.

His 'daily' is a 30yr-old Miroku 12. In case that helps at all.
 
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Goodj

  Listerine & Poledo
The technology of shooting fella. Not all tech needs to be a shiny rectangle :)

Good link, might reverse-link it back
 
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car.crash

  Clio 182
Get me the specs and numbers off the gun and I will get a answer for you on Tuesday when I'm back to work.

There will be proof marks on the barrels.
 
The Russian.

The Russian.

  Inferno 225 cup
Ok mate first steel should never be choked more than 1/2, that's half choke. This is due to steel having very little "give" between the ball bearings.

What steel is he intending to use. I ask as if he intends to use 2 3/4 inch carts I have a feeling his miroku will be ok. It's when u move to 3 and 3.5 inch carts you get issues.

The only way to tell is to check proof marks on the barrel of his gun. The international standard of steel proofing is the flur de lays symbol and this basically means the guns chamber can take 3.5 tonne of pressure per square inch. That will deem it as ok. Now miroku are copies of browning guns that are US guns and the yanks tend to like to go big so hopefully the japs have copied the proofing to sell in the US too
 
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Goodj

  Listerine & Poledo
Cheers big man.
His o/u predates steel shot by a couple of decades so it's not going have been proofed for that.
What you're saying is exactly what we've got to so far, except some places say even 1/2 choke is too much.
How long before we do a Unit Clay Shoot? ;)
@Scrooge, can we loose shot over the Lithuanians?
 
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Ex-User (99307)

  V6 255, 172 cup, ph1
1/2 is fine for steel, it patterns really tightly anyway so you don't lose anything. I shoot steel through 1/4 and 1/2 int he DT10 and it's been absolutely fine.

If you're doing a fair bit of fowling I would look at picking up a cheap/modern 12g like a hatsan escort pump for the price a few boxes of Bismuth you have something you don't mind cleaning up the day after if you get soaked and you can throw steel through for years on end without a care in the world.
 
Dan

Dan

  172 track thingy
Ye and escort pump is what I'm looking for to put steel through and for rough shooting.

Don't they usually come with multi chokes?
 
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Goodj

  Listerine & Poledo
Thanks all.
It seems he's been to see some people over the weekend and got his answers for his particular, 40yr-old Miroku.

Personally, I don't live shoot, I don't rate my aim enough yet. Even if I did, no chance am I going to sit out in the uk equivalent of a paddy field, taking pot shots and flocks of geese in the freezing cold and dark.
Hell no.
And, for my purposes, the 16g will keep firing lead until that's banned from skeet ranges :)
 
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Ex-User (99307)

  V6 255, 172 cup, ph1
A fellow skeet shooter eh? Proper skeet or the slow variety?

Dan said:
Ye and escort pump is what I'm looking for to put steel through and for rough shooting.

Don't they usually come with multi chokes?
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I know the semis do, I've never thought to look at the chokes on a pump!
 
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Goodj

  Listerine & Poledo
Luke_Exc said:
I haven't shot any this year at all so you're probably better than me!
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Lol, no chance. Blind women without arms have better accuracy.
@Scrooge, @Cub. we'll have to get together in the new year at a decent range, must be plenty in the essex/oxon/cambs triangle that will just do pay-on-the-day. Failing that, get to Riseley up my way, lovely place.
Skeet and "simulated game" traps aplenty.
 
Scrooge

Scrooge

ClioSport Moderator
  E55 AMG
There's an awesome I'm Brentwood. Buy 50 cartridges, walk around to 10-15 different positions, two shots on each. Go home with sore shoulder.

They do a bit of Skeet too but the blokes doing that look like monumental dickheads.
 
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Goodj

  Listerine & Poledo
Scrooge said:
Skeet - monumental dickheads.
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Standard.
I need to get myself one of those peak caps, bodywarmer with cartridge pockets and ultra-r****d shades, then I be almost that cool.
Skeet._William_H._Keever,_USA.jpg
 
Scrooge

Scrooge

ClioSport Moderator
  E55 AMG
Tbh they always looked worse than that. A lot brighter and were bear grylls on acid preparing for a zombie apocalypse.
 
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Goodj

  Listerine & Poledo
Dan said:
I want one of them shotguns! They can keep the rest tbh.
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Sames.
But I'd need to offload the pump before I'd have room for a y0! mad modified ultra-performance 12-gauge with cup packs.
So I'll stick with my trusty 16
 
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Ex-User (99307)

  V6 255, 172 cup, ph1
Goodj said:
Standard.
I need to get myself one of those peak caps, bodywarmer with cartridge pockets and ultra-r****d shades, then I be almost that cool.
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Skeet vest: Check.
Awesome cap: Check.
Ultra-r****d shades: I draw the line at the cardboard bits on the side but otherwise Check.
Awesome 'Cup-Packed' Shotgun: Check.
 
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