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lawrence
ClioSport Club Member
is non-existent
is this the way forward for forced induction!!???
there are companies out there that would do it, but just depends how deep your pockets are? probably cost you around 6-7k for a proper set-up but dont quote me,
why not turbo it mate? itll be the modern RS turbo but in a clio
there are companies out there that would do it, but just depends how deep your pockets are? probably cost you around 6-7k for a proper set-up but dont quote me,
why not turbo it mate? itll be the modern RS turbo but in a clio
len_beach
ClioSport Club Member
E92 M3,172 track car
There is no reason why an electronic super/turbocharger shouldn't work if it was done properly ie. boost increasing with revs. This thing however is just a PC cooling fan which I dare say runs at a constant speed at would not provide the gains it claims. There may even come a point where the engine requires more air than this can provide regardless fo what the ad says.
Plus it would be a restriction of the airflow entering the inlet.
I don't think i'd want to spend £100 on a piece of chromed drain pipe and a PC fan.
Plus it would be a restriction of the airflow entering the inlet.
I don't think i'd want to spend £100 on a piece of chromed drain pipe and a PC fan.
MKIII 138
seriously though, if what we want is dense cold air forced through a small`ish tube to create high mass high preassure cool air i.e induction scoopy to feed to filter, then surley something that can cool that air even further before it reaches the filter will allow for a better combustion ? would it be useful to be able to cool an indcution kits air further than it usually would be able too due to weather conditions, feed posistion and engine temps ??? maybe a type of charge cooler ?
sorry for sounding like a tard but i thought intercoolers chilled the air greatly ? why not put a mini one on the end of a induction feed, air goes into intercooler through pipe gets cooled, cool air travels to filter etc.. probably a stupid thing to say.
also on he subject of a spining device to suck more air into the pipe if it was designed so it did suck rather than just spin why wouldnt it work for higher speeds once the blades were spining at a high velocity..
ok so ive had my dumb moment now lol
sorry for sounding like a tard but i thought intercoolers chilled the air greatly ? why not put a mini one on the end of a induction feed, air goes into intercooler through pipe gets cooled, cool air travels to filter etc.. probably a stupid thing to say.
also on he subject of a spining device to suck more air into the pipe if it was designed so it did suck rather than just spin why wouldnt it work for higher speeds once the blades were spining at a high velocity..
ok so ive had my dumb moment now lol
SLK 350
Well i just emailed the advertisers on ebay for those engines, look interesting!
"Hello,
I was thinking of purchasing these to help keep my grandma warm this winter, she's extremely frail and prone to cold limbs.
Do you envisage that i could feasibly install one or more enjoys into her bedroom/kitchen/lounge and perhaps one for use as a patio heater? The reason i ask is because i cannot seem to locate the dimensions for these engines.
Also if i was to be the lucky winner, do you imagine they would fit into my ford transit, its very roomy and ill be sure to remove my collection of gnomes - couldn't crush the boys now could i!
Anyway, thanks for your time and look forward to meeting you all, thanks a lot.
James"
"Hello,
I was thinking of purchasing these to help keep my grandma warm this winter, she's extremely frail and prone to cold limbs.
Do you envisage that i could feasibly install one or more enjoys into her bedroom/kitchen/lounge and perhaps one for use as a patio heater? The reason i ask is because i cannot seem to locate the dimensions for these engines.
Also if i was to be the lucky winner, do you imagine they would fit into my ford transit, its very roomy and ill be sure to remove my collection of gnomes - couldn't crush the boys now could i!
Anyway, thanks for your time and look forward to meeting you all, thanks a lot.
James"
in theory i guess it wrks but 10bhp i doubt maybe 2?
As for getting better induction you could:
Use exhaust wrap and wrap it round the manifold and downpipe which will keep engine bay temps down a bit.
relocate the battery into the boot
Relocate the airbox to where the battery used to be and put the cold air feed somewhere better.
Get some more and better heat shielding for the airbox and make sure its sealed!
panel filter
Now a crazy idea! You can get water cooling systems for pcs which does sort of act like an intercooler does but on a smaller scale. if the pipes could be ran into the airbox to keep the air cool that enters it and wrap and heat shield the pipe to the throttle body in exhaust wrap but have this water cooling system running through it aswell so really its keeping the air cool until it actually enters the engine. you reckon something like that will work? the air will stay cool and engine bay temperatures will stay cooler aswell. might be alot of hassle but im sure it will maximise what you can get from standard induction! sounds like it will work in my head lol
As for getting better induction you could:
Use exhaust wrap and wrap it round the manifold and downpipe which will keep engine bay temps down a bit.
relocate the battery into the boot
Relocate the airbox to where the battery used to be and put the cold air feed somewhere better.
Get some more and better heat shielding for the airbox and make sure its sealed!
panel filter
Now a crazy idea! You can get water cooling systems for pcs which does sort of act like an intercooler does but on a smaller scale. if the pipes could be ran into the airbox to keep the air cool that enters it and wrap and heat shield the pipe to the throttle body in exhaust wrap but have this water cooling system running through it aswell so really its keeping the air cool until it actually enters the engine. you reckon something like that will work? the air will stay cool and engine bay temperatures will stay cooler aswell. might be alot of hassle but im sure it will maximise what you can get from standard induction! sounds like it will work in my head lol
lol, just for a laugh.
Active cooling for inlet flow on an NA is possibly quite useless.
Sure, you could use water to cool it, but you'd need a massive surface area to exchange heat, otherwise a matrix jsut becomes a restriction. After that your left with the dialemma of how to cool the water you'd heated up....radiator you say...sure, but thats being cooled by the air outside so will only ever reach current air temps, which is what you would be starting with in the first place.
Second is the intercooler, again, your just increasing complexity of passing air through a cooler which has air of the same temp on the other side.
All assuming that the rest of the inlet tract in both of the above adds zero heat energy to the air, then you get to the inlet manifold which is attatched to the head and made of ally, a great conductor of heat.....so all attemps being wasted.
Isolate the heat transferred into the manifold via the 100+ deg cylinderhead its attatched to and you'll probably net more gains than active cooling.
And before anyone suggests liquid gas cooling lol.
thats it, i'm going to bed.
Active cooling for inlet flow on an NA is possibly quite useless.
Sure, you could use water to cool it, but you'd need a massive surface area to exchange heat, otherwise a matrix jsut becomes a restriction. After that your left with the dialemma of how to cool the water you'd heated up....radiator you say...sure, but thats being cooled by the air outside so will only ever reach current air temps, which is what you would be starting with in the first place.
Second is the intercooler, again, your just increasing complexity of passing air through a cooler which has air of the same temp on the other side.
All assuming that the rest of the inlet tract in both of the above adds zero heat energy to the air, then you get to the inlet manifold which is attatched to the head and made of ally, a great conductor of heat.....so all attemps being wasted.
Isolate the heat transferred into the manifold via the 100+ deg cylinderhead its attatched to and you'll probably net more gains than active cooling.
And before anyone suggests liquid gas cooling lol.
thats it, i'm going to bed.
lol well was jus a crazy thought lol. Ive heard using Co2 instead of nitrous is just as effective?
As for cooling the water in the "cooling system" you could use a radiator/intercooler and have a small fire extinguisher or something similar keeping it cool, or u could have something spraying nitrogen on it keeping it cool lol.
As for cooling the water in the "cooling system" you could use a radiator/intercooler and have a small fire extinguisher or something similar keeping it cool, or u could have something spraying nitrogen on it keeping it cool lol.
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