To have or have not Spigot Rings

[richy22]

As per the title really whats the view on running on wheels without spigot rings?

 

[couzens]

bad idea? as the weight of the car is purly on the wheel nuts and not the hub aswell? or is that wrong lol

 

[ramsey374]

car will wobble surely?

 

[richy22]

Any more input?

 

[Chrisjk]

Are those the little rings that go in the wheel to make the hub fit correct?

 

[richy22]

Aye to make it easier to locate and line up on the hub.

 

[Firas]

not a major deal tbh. i am running oz wheels at the moment with the wrong hub size and its fine. you get a little vibration when doing about 90 but thats about it tbh

 

[Chrisjk]

I have them on my current wheels, no problems for me.

 

[Beef-Mc]

Not had any problems with mine, think I might be missing one now as I get a little wobble at 70.

 

[Will.]

I had a problem with mine on my turinis today. Wheel were wobbling, so took it to a trye place and they said one of the springs wasnt in right, but becasue there was hubs in there aswell it doesnt matter, you only need one or the other...they also told me i need new brake pads and discs....£100! uh oh

 

[pinky]

Can get wobbly at 60mph+
They dont cost much.

 

[MarkCup]

They dont cost much.

Exactly. Mine were something like £12 from eBay.

Foolish to run without them I think.

 

[richy22]

Exactly. Mine were something like £12 from eBay.

Foolish to run without them I think.

But why? From what I've read and seen there is no major issues

(thats a genuine question!)

 

[Millsy]

just get them fitted!!

costs circa £10 as said!

you'll get wheel balance like issues at speed, e.g vibration! which is never a good thing!

 

[richy22]

just get them fitted!!

costs circa £10 as said!

you'll get wheel balance like issues at speed, e.g vibration! which is never a good thing!

f**k sake! Im not saying they wont be fitted but the only thing people say the problem is, is with vibration.

Being plastic the spigots can't be doing any form of load taking otherwise they would smash???

 

[MarcoB]

The spigot ring isnt there to take the load though^!!

 

[richy22]

The spigot ring isnt there to take the load though^!!

EXACTLY! Is they to locate/centre the wheel to help the line up the bolts. If the bolts are lined up anyway I can't see the issue.

 

[theduck]

the vibration is caused by the wheels moving much like an unbalanced wheel. This will be happening all the time even though you may not notice it all the time. This movement will be putting additional stress of parts and therefore may cause them to fail.

 

[richy22]

"may" is the appropriate word i like

My steering rack "may" fail on the way home

LOL it sounds like im being argumentative but im not!

I understand the chances of the bolts failing would be increased but then the plastic spigot "may" crack/fail and the vibration/movement might happen which put added stress on things, then things "may" start to fail!

xxxxx!!

 

[theduck]

all about the risk your willing to take. when the risk involves spending a tenner, its not worth it imo.

 

[Inferno]

How are spigot rings not load bearing? They may be weak on their own, but when sandwiched between the wheel and the hub they are as strong as they need to be. Spigot rings can be either aluminium or plastic, if I had the choice I'd opt for aluminium.

I wouldn't run without them as, as far as I'm concerned they will take load off of the wheel bolts and onto the hub where it belongs.

 

[iimushroomzii]

Just f**king buy some

 

[clio_luke]

i would just get some tbh. its £10 or so. not worth the risk. if you have to ask the question, there is obviously some concern there.

 

[Icarus]

You need to run them to ensure correct wheel location in relation to the hub and they do have a load bearing role - end of.

Cheers
M

 

[richy22]

all about the risk your willing to take. when the risk involves spending a tenner, its not worth it imo.

The issue isn't about me buying them (as they are already on the way).. it was a genuine question and no real scientific explanation has been given other than "f**king buy some" (not aimed at you!)

Just f**king buy some

i would just get some tbh. its £10 or so. not worth the risk. if you have to ask the question, there is obviously some concern there.

Learning to read FTL xxxx

f**k sake! Im not saying they wont be fitted but the only thing people say the problem is, is with vibration.

 

[bmh.01]

Have, stop being a tight c**t.

 

[richy22]

Have, stop being a tight c**t.

Read above!

 

[bmh.01]

Oops .

 

[theduck]

The issue isn't about me buying them (as they are already on the way).. it was a genuine question and no real scientific explanation has been given other than "f**king buy some" (not aimed at you!)

You need to run them to ensure correct wheel location in relation to the hub and they do have a load bearing role - end of.

Cheers
M

 

[172Ben]

I didnt run one of my passenger side front wheel of my punto. After about 3 weeks the wheel bolts had worked themselves loose, and had managed to egg the holes themselves.

Get some or the above WILL happen!

 

[pinky]

Lol..you asked a question and got answers but you aint gonna bother in anycase.
Close thread.

 

[Fred@BTM]

highly dangerous

 

[Will.]

Can i just ask, is a spigot ring a plastic ring or a metal ring?

 

[172Ben]

Plastic

 

[Will.]

So when a mechanic at a tyre wheel place pulled out a metal ring within the plastic ring...wtf was that?

 

[172Ben]

I think sometimes they can be metal? Ive always known them to be plastic.....

 

[Will.]

Thing is there was a palstic one and then a metal ring inside which had come out

 

[ForceIndia]

As said above, can be plastic or metal.Stupidity to run without, puts the load on the bolts, all for the sake of under £20!

 

[Dink]

i can't see how they would be load bearing? unless your wheel nuts were loose

 

[bmh.01]

i can't see how they would be load bearing? unless your wheel nuts were loose

The weight of the car sits on the spigot of the hub not the wheel bolts when fitted with standard wheels or wheels with the correct centre bore. The bolts are there to hold the wheel on, not hold the weight of the car as well.