Valver BMC owners

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 20, 2004

Carnoisseur have asked me if I need the rubber adaptor for it. Do I?

TheJesus · Apr 20, 2004

no idea m8, but free bump

BRUN · Apr 20, 2004

yes you will if they do one........

Matty · Apr 20, 2004

Dont know about a rubber adaptor. An adaptor is reguired to fit silicone hose between CDA and throttle body. BMC list an adaptor but allegedly not available.

It would be best to speak to eurostyling who I believe are the UK importers. They should be able to advise. I got an adaptor fabricated. KTEC have an adaptor made for the viper so that may do.

Great IK but an arse because of all this trouble....

BRUN · Apr 20, 2004

as above there is an adapter supposedly mentioned but its not available anywhere

Euro Styling ARE the importers for BMC

personally id ring K-Tec and ask them to sell you one of there adapters.......

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 20, 2004

E-mailed them but not heard a peep from them. Will ring them Thurs if they still dont get back to me. Want this on for the next peaks meet.

Nick Read · Apr 20, 2004

If there is an adaptor then you DEFINITELY want it. If not its a bit of a Meccano mission, youll need a load of big jubilee clips, some metal mending plate stuff, some whacking great silicone flexi pipe etc.

The results are definitely worth it on a valver, but you really do need an adapter for the throttle body.

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 20, 2004

I reckon it must be a bit of pipe that bends through 90 degrees. Suppose for a tenner its better to have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it.

Adams_16v · Apr 20, 2004

iv got an adaptor but i wanted it in another location so i bought some wide break ducting from DT and basically stuck that over the throttle body. worked a treat!

clean16v · Apr 21, 2004

where you getting it form in the end then mate?

BRUN · Apr 21, 2004

Mike.......Mehdi

if you two seriously want BMCs......then i may be able to sort out a deal for you through work..........i mean your both not that far from my shop really.....£350 for two ?........£175 each.......

whats the goin rate at the moment, 190 ?

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 21, 2004

£199 including the rubber adaptor fella. Need to dscuss it with the g/f first though.

clean16v · Apr 21, 2004

hmmm, may be up for that, let me know mike, is that price including adaptor i assume?

Matty · Apr 21, 2004

I had a bargain then, place I got mine from made the adaptor from drawings I supplied, provided SFS silcone hose and CDA for less than 200 quid.

Then fitted and RRd it too.

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 21, 2004

Bleedin ell. Who did all that for you?

clean16v · Apr 21, 2004

^^^^^^^^^sounds good! TheJesus is also interested in a N/W group buy so how about you mike?

_Tom · Apr 21, 2004

Has anyone got any pics of a BMC fitted to a valver?

Matty · Apr 21, 2004

http://uk.msnusers.com/Clio16v/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2 http://uk.msnusers.com/Clio16v/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2

BRUN · Apr 21, 2004

if you can get a part number for the adapter i should be able to get them...

oh and unless anywhere has the right one in, then there is currently a 6 week wait on SFS hoses......

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 22, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Matty on 21 April 2004

http://uk.msnusers.com/Clio16v/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2 http://uk.msnusers.com/Clio16v/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2

Matty is that hosing the stuff that comes with the BMC or did you get that elsewhere ( the hosing from the throttle body adaptor) as Id probably prefer to fit it the way you have.

_Tom · Apr 22, 2004

So they take air in by the manifold? Surely that aint good!

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 22, 2004

Carbon shielded so shouldnt matter. Allows colder air to be ducted from lower down when you run the trunking back to the front.

TheJesus · Apr 22, 2004

BRUN, will that price include fitting it etc?

_Tom · Apr 22, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by mike8579 on 22 April 2004

Carbon shielded so shouldnt matter. Allows colder air to be ducted from lower down when you run the trunking back to the front.

What do you mean? I thought the whole point of filters like these were to take cold air from the front of the car? Any air in the engine bay is gunna be warm!

Matty · Apr 22, 2004

SFS hose was extra. So BMC just comes with corrugated type air feed that I have running down the back of engine and forward facing. Nice tight fit for the CDA wedged in by battery. Think this is better than Viper which just sits near radiator.

So if any1 get a CDA, need adaptor fabricating, hose in correct length and bend and that is it.

Lost the details of the chaps who did mine. They specialised in Fiat Tuning. Steve Hay was one of the chaps and also a guy called Peter.

This was first fit and I was supposed to go back for replacement adaptor in stainless rather than mild steel, countersunk for nuts etc. I never did though.

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 22, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by BRUN on 21 April 2004

if you can get a part number for the adapter i should be able to get them...

oh and unless anywhere has the right one in, then there is currently a 6 week wait on SFS hoses......

CAC09070 according to what Carnoisseur put in their e-mail to me Brun.

BTW Ive got an adaptor sorted for the throttle body.

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 22, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by 1.8_16v_Clio on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by mike8579 on 22 April 2004

Carbon shielded so shouldnt matter. Allows colder air to be ducted from lower down when you run the trunking back to the front.

Click to expand...

What do you mean? I thought the whole point of filters like these were to take cold air from the front of the car? Any air in the engine bay is gunna be warm!

Not necessarily no. The point of them is this:

They are carbon shielded to begin with. This allows serious protection from any heat from within the engine bay.

They also have a conical sort of vortex-y thing in them to speed up and compress the air so the air is denser.

As long as you take the feed from the BMC back towards the front of the car (Ill probably use one of the gaps in the bumper that are near the fogs) then youll be alright. Plus the feed will be from lower down in the bay so will be colder.

_Tom · Apr 22, 2004

Quote: Originally posted by mike8579 on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by 1.8_16v_Clio on 22 April 2004

Quote: Originally posted by mike8579 on 22 April 2004

Carbon shielded so shouldnt matter. Allows colder air to be ducted from lower down when you run the trunking back to the front.

Click to expand...

What do you mean? I thought the whole point of filters like these were to take cold air from the front of the car? Any air in the engine bay is gunna be warm!

Click to expand...

Not necessarily no. The point of them is this:

They are carbon shielded to begin with. This allows serious protection from any heat from within the engine bay.

They also have a conical sort of vortex-y thing in them to speed up and compress the air so the air is denser.

As long as you take the feed from the BMC back towards the front of the car (Ill probably use one of the gaps in the bumper that are near the fogs) then youll be alright. Plus the feed will be from lower down in the bay so will be colder.

Im gettin you now.

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 22, 2004

http://www.bmcairfilters.com/cgi-bin/Images/CDA/16G-Renault_Clio_1.8%20.JPG http://www.bmcairfilters.com/cgi-bin/Images/CDA/16G-Renault_Clio_1.8%20.JPG

This is the piccy off BMCs site, so presumably that rubber adaptor is indeed a short length of hose that takes it through 90degrees as shown in the piccy.

More piccys and measurements below:

http://www.bmcairfilters.com/VisDetail.asp?ID=221 http://www.bmcairfilters.com/VisDetail.asp?ID=221

http://www.bmcairfilters.com/VisDetail.asp?ID=215 http://www.bmcairfilters.com/VisDetail.asp?ID=215

Only one problem though. The k-tec adaptor has a 63mm opening, and the rubber BMC adaptor is 70mm.

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 22, 2004

Right then Brun. SFS do some 90degree elbows that are 63mm and also some straight reducers from 70-63mm. Can you get these as well?

Swervin_Mervin · Apr 23, 2004

Brun?

Dave Hester · Apr 24, 2004

As long as you take the feed from the BMC back towards the front of the car (Ill probably use one of the gaps in the bumper that are near the fogs) then youll be alright. Plus the feed will be from lower down in the bay so will be colder.

Thats a hell of a lot of piping the air has to get though before it gets to the throttle body + 180* bends arent a good idea really

steve a · Apr 24, 2004

Yeah thats what puts me off, maybe re locate the battery?

BRUN · Apr 24, 2004

yes i can mate, however as ive said before, 6 week wait on SFS hoses at the moment

price is supply only, we dont undertake any fitting at the shop, if you cant fit an induction kit though..................theres not much hope for you lol........however ive heard it is a bit harder than normal gettin a BMC on a 16v but it does fit ive seen it before

Martin · Apr 24, 2004

If the BMC is 190 quid it sounds like you could go for a Viper for about a tenner more and not have any trouble with fitting/parts. Just a thought.

clean16v · Apr 24, 2004

managed to make something myself so i dont need a BMC/viper, will post pictures up later, the price for these induction kits are stupid, no way im paying that much for fast road use! the gains are minimal/non existent compared to what i have made for next to nothing!

steve a · Apr 25, 2004

Pics please

clean16v · Apr 25, 2004

ok, not managed to get a pic of it on the car yet but i will, basically its a hole at the front face of the airbox, bit of ducting sealed into hole, locate the other end of ducting by the side if the radiator, bobs yoyur uncle. matched with a panel filter of some sort, im using Green, then i doubt there will be any noticeable differences between this and a BMC, except this doesnt look very good but is alot cheaper!

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1082917521__IMG_0083.jpg

BRUN · Apr 25, 2004

should work mate...........not carbon like the BMC though

clean16v · Apr 25, 2004

yeah but how much of an advantage will it have over what i ghave made? very slight if any, its all part of the marketing to get us to spend stupid amunts of money on an air filter!

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