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vista appreciation thread.



  Punto/Clio GTT
It's funny really. Quite a few people at work have bought Macs recently and every one of them dual boots or run Parallels into XP so they can actually use it for anything more than listening to music or blogging!!

Yeah it's cool, but it's also useless most the time. For home use and none gaming I'm sure it's superb.

I have a dual boot on my macbook, purely to run some phone stuff thats really techy.

Other than that i have never used a pc to play a game since red alert.
PS2/Wii for games Mac for computing.

We have a vista machine downstairs (mum likes office on vista thats the only reason)
Virtually the same spec as my Mac, but with better graphics and its crap and slow.

The Sooner an SP the better, why is it so bloated! it takes ages to boot and aero seems to make it die, very odd.

try run it on a decent pc?

mine boots up fast and runs very fast
 
  Megane 230 R26
Still too many issues with Vista in the grand scheme of things. I do a lot of PC-fixing for people in my spare time and the #1 issue I'm seeing is misbehaving wi-fi. Strangely this is almost exclusively on laptops which have been sold running Vista, seems the manufacturers didn't do their homework or simply didn't expect their chosen hardware to have issues, but it does.

Symptoms are generally that you browse for networks, select one, enter the required authentication details, and it briefly states it's connected successfully before losing the connection. Some of them can be coerced into working but most just won't work at all no matter how hard you try :dapprove:

Certainly won't be using it myself until it's been around at least 18 months, unless I *have* to... I'd far rather let some other unsuspecting b*****ds iron out the issues :rasp:
 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member
  Z4M
what do you mean by that?

Lots of older software has "issues". Most work, but not 100% perfectly.

I only run Photoshop Elements at work as I'm not an artist but often need to do simple editing. Elements 4.0 has problems with Vista, so I had to upgrade to 5.0 with the latest updates to get it to work properly.

Stuff like the old version of Power DVD I have works okay, but could be better.

Other than that I've been very happy with it. We won't be rolling it out across any sites any time soon though, only for QA purposes.

Couldn't have put it better myself. ;)
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
Vista Sucks..

Anyone who works in IT and knows his stuff secretly runs linux/OSX at home and on servers.
 
Vista Sucks..

Anyone who works in IT and knows his stuff secretly runs linux/OSX at home and on servers.

Haha, I do apart from the OSX part now.. :( ;)
All of my own servers are Linux though, pmsl.. all I work with ALL day at work is Windows, too.. :rasp:
 
  tiTTy & SV650
My work PC is running Windows 2000 still lol (circumstances prevail sadly...) I hate XP though and not tried Vista yet.
 
  Fabia vRS
i love vista, i run it at home on my laptop and desktop, both have 4gb of ram and c2d processors.

i find that the only reason people ever find vista slow or crap is if they have UAC enabled, or they don't have a hefty enough processor and enough memory.

i used to be a hater, but then i installed it and still hated it, but stuck with it anyway because i wanted to use dx10. now i've been using it a while i have decided i like it and it rarely ever crashes, and it looks pretty.
 
  Goliath I
as said new stuff great... old stuff not so

I had a hell of job setting up my internet connection on there as it didn't recognise the modem and was unable to download an update as I could get no connection! also had download stuff for my printer to.

Id say its worth getting though as everything will soon start moulding into place and will mostly be Vista only...look to future
 
  Ultra Blue R26
i love vista, i run it at home on my laptop and desktop, both have 4gb of ram and c2d processors.

i find that the only reason people ever find vista slow or crap is if they have UAC enabled, or they don't have a hefty enough processor and enough memory.

i used to be a hater, but then i installed it and still hated it, but stuck with it anyway because i wanted to use dx10. now i've been using it a while i have decided i like it and it rarely ever crashes, and it looks pretty.

That's the thing though why should I upgrade my computer to run the new Windows? XP runs fine but Vista is slow in comparison (I have a dual boot). There are also issues with some older apps that I need to use for work, although we are trying to move away from them.
 
  Better than yours. C*nt.
Why are there so many different versions of Vista?

With the new apple OS 'Leopard' theres only 1 version for like £80.

Because you shouldn't buy 'Home Basic', Ultimate has everything for everyone, Home Premium doesn't include the more Business-oriented things and Business doesn't include the Home-oriented stuff like the Media Center.

It makes sense, and yes, while one version for everyone is easier, what do Home users need the advanced backup and restore/DFS etc. features for? And I know damned well I don't want Media Center on our machines at work!
 
Microsoft market there stuff much differently.. they have the entire market, where Apple have the "I want this PC to work" market..

Microsoft have Home, Business, People who just want a computer etc..
 
  Better than yours. C*nt.
Vista Sucks..

Anyone who works in IT and knows his stuff secretly runs linux/OSX at home and on servers.

I'm alright thanks - you stick to your Linux, I know I'm happy with my entire Windows domain which works fine... Ish... Although we have three Linux boxes - one Mutiny network monitoring and two Citrix Access Gateways - both of which come that way so that's all we had the option of!

I don't consider myself to not know my stuff - I can work Linux fine but personally find looking after a 2k3 domain much more stress free...
 
Vista Sucks..

Anyone who works in IT and knows his stuff secretly runs linux/OSX at home and on servers.

I'm alright thanks - you stick to your Linux, I know I'm happy with my entire Windows domain which works fine... Ish... Although we have three Linux boxes - one Mutiny network monitoring and two Citrix Access Gateways - both of which come that way so that's all we had the option of!

I don't consider myself to not know my stuff - I can work Linux fine but personally find looking after a 2k3 domain much more stress free...

In terms of domains, AD is MILES ahead of anything else.. seriously miles ahead.. then add Exchange etc.. and there isn't a rival.
KDF knows it too.. he'll admit it one day.. he loves it ;)
 
  Megane 230 R26
I run dual boot XP / Kubuntu on my home PC, and Debian Linux on nearly all servers... Don't see a position for Vista at the moment at all, I think I'll only move to it if forced to in order to use a particular piece of hardware or software, but especially now DX10 can be run on XP I don't see that happening in the near future!
 
  Better than yours. C*nt.
I run dual boot XP / Kubuntu on my home PC, and Debian Linux on nearly all servers... Don't see a position for Vista at the moment at all, I think I'll only move to it if forced to in order to use a particular piece of hardware or software, but especially now DX10 can be run on XP I don't see that happening in the near future!

DX10 Doesn't work on XP. WDDM changes restrict that.
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
DX10 does work on XP. M$ says it doesn't so you have to upgrade when all the latest games come out..

but a few guys spent 4 seconds and hacked it to work on XP. You can see the M$ money machine in action now.
 

t0m

  Megane 225 Turbo
Apparently Vista itself is pretty tight though. I aquired a version and key, which installed fine. Apparently if you install without a key you get 15 days of use. If you install with a key you get 30. I installed with the key but it failed to activate. Several keygens and cracks later and no luck. Certainly not as simple as the other OS's.

Any advances. I used it for about a day and the GUI was more pleasing than XP, however thats nothing that can't be fixed with a windows blind. It was a nice OS to use, but installing programs was tiresome and many updates failed (not windows ones) and many General Exception faults were raised. Whether this is because it was an iffy version I don't know, was the ultimate one so had all the gear. Would probably have kept it should it have been activated.
 

ash_s3

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 172 Cup
Anyone having problems with media player on vista?

Running Vista Business and the latest Windows media player version 11

When i play a track, mp3, cd whatever it skips at the end of each song, doesnt matter whether its off a cd or downloaded etc, the actual track is fine because if you burn it to a cd theres no skipping so its not a corrupted file.

Doing my head in, any ideas? Can i go back to an old media player, i have the new layout etc..

Cheers
 
  Skoda Fabia vRS
got Vista on our new PC, wish it had XP, it was quicker than this and this is a far better spec machine than my old one
 
  RB 182
I had a problem with the 64bit version yesterday as it doesn't support the iPhone or iPod Touch on iTunes. It seems iTunes is coming out in 64bit soon though with isn't so bad.
 
  Clio200 EDC Lux
Been running Vista ultimate for about 2 months now on my new rig, I really like. Boots up very quick had no real problems with it at all.

Thumbs up from me :)
 
  Tesla MP3 2021
Love it to bits. Been running ultimate for around 5 months now and havnt had 1 issue :)
 
  Better than yours. C*nt.
DX10 does work on XP. M$ says it doesn't so you have to upgrade when all the latest games come out..

but a few guys spent 4 seconds and hacked it to work on XP. You can see the M$ money machine in action now.

No it doesn't. I've hacked it on to XP and it can't call the DX10 functions properly. Lots of bluescreens and a two fingers to XP. Gone to Vista and the only issue I have is because I use a server-level RAID card I can't have the power-saving functions enabled because I'm using 2003 drivers - when Longhorn gets finished I'll have that covered and my machine prefers Vista...

Sod messing around with XP - Microsoft may want money out of you but the gaming community wouldn't let it be... Changes to WDDM at a fundamental level meant DX9 had to be completely changed to run on Vista with WDDM drivers. Whoever said that the Kernels are similar is on crack - they're 'similar' in that they're both Windows... That is where the similarities begin and end...

If you actually look into what has changed, you realise just how big a step technologically it is (hence why older kit doesn't tend to work so well, because it's designed to run on today's and tomorrow's technology, otherwise it'll have a shelflife of 5 minutes)
 
  Suzuki SV650
I had Vista for a good month or so but went back to XP, I can't afford to upgrade my pc just to run Vista, which to me, seems like XP but with fancy bells and whistles on. Also it has tons of annoying security features which I'd rather not have, like UAC; useful for some, but it was so annoying. Also had to faff about with using the command prompt to unlock folders and files, taking control of them, just so I could delete them (old Windows installations etc, I know its best to re-format but I didn't and ended up with an old XP install wasting space and Vista couldn't touch it) I had numerous issues with my gfx card and games too. 'Aero' is a nice touch, but you need lots of system resources to run Vista.

It was the same when XP came out, Vista will be good, but not for a long while.
 


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