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Vista Prices
- Thread starter ViolentJ
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RS 200
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SW-041-MS&groupid=33&catid=20&subcat=
Not sure on delivery though
Not sure on delivery though
realnumber 1
ClioSport Club Member
As long as it's not preventing him getting updates or popping up from his system tray every 5 minutes I don't think he's fussed
If MS were that bothered they wouldn't allow it to be sold to the general public surely?
It's down to the distributor I guess. Some won't sell OEM unless they know you won't install it against the EULA (i.e. you are a computer services supplier etc), and some won't sell it without hardware.
Bear in mind that price is OEM, so will need to be supplied with a fullly assembled device to be legal
IIRC they got rid of that law for vista, at least thats what it said on ebuyer, if not then just order a £1 mouse with it.
Nope.
They made OEM EULA in Vista more strict.
http://apcmag.com/node/4347
realnumber 1
ClioSport Club Member
Getting the OEM is fine, dont think MS will come knocking on your door anytime soon. Why get ripped off paying full price?
CS Dungeon
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123047
£107 with free delivery
Ordered a copy this week for a friend, and it had 'for system builders only' stickered on the packaging
£107 with free delivery
Ordered a copy this week for a friend, and it had 'for system builders only' stickered on the packaging
a renault
I would still wait at least 6 to 12 months before getting Vista (unless you're buying a brand new pc) there are still many bugs with it. Wait until a Service Pack has come out for it.
realnumber 1
ClioSport Club Member
Better than yours. C*nt.
b****cks. Works fine on my 1-year-old laptop and has done since it's release (I upgraded straight away) and also on my £2500 desktop with server spec RAID controller. It tends to be user error that causes problem, including installing it on a machine that they have false hopes for...
As for buying OEM, as said above be careful. They can charge you a silly amount for it and while 'it never happens to anyone', they always said that about downloading music illegally and low and behold, it started happening.
I have noticed some bugs in vista causing certain program crashes. But for the most part it is alright.
Service pack should hopefully make it better though.
The actual agreement for the OEM versions of vista is.
"If the individual software license is a desktop operating system (including Windows XP Media Center Edition), we grant you a nonexclusive right to distribute individual software licenses; provided that each one is distributed with either (a) a fully assembled computer system or (b) a nonperipheral computer hardware component."
With relation to (b) that means it can be purchased with a Hard drive, CPU, Memory, Motherboard etc. It has to be an integral part of the main system though. So you can not buy a £1 mouse.
That is what is quoted on the scan website. Might have been changed from the earlier proposal due to problems. But if scan are willing to provide it without a fully assembled machine and they are one of the bigger providers I see no issue.
They can not charge a silly amount for OEM. It is the same basic product as the retail product. Minus tech support. They can not charge much more as people would just move to the retail product if that was the case.
And with regards to purchasing Ultimate...are you really going to need the extra features over Home Premium. Which to be fair 95% of users will not need. Have a think as home premium which has most of the major features can be had for £60ish OEM. Versus the £110 ish of the ultimate edition.
Service pack should hopefully make it better though.
The actual agreement for the OEM versions of vista is.
"If the individual software license is a desktop operating system (including Windows XP Media Center Edition), we grant you a nonexclusive right to distribute individual software licenses; provided that each one is distributed with either (a) a fully assembled computer system or (b) a nonperipheral computer hardware component."
With relation to (b) that means it can be purchased with a Hard drive, CPU, Memory, Motherboard etc. It has to be an integral part of the main system though. So you can not buy a £1 mouse.
That is what is quoted on the scan website. Might have been changed from the earlier proposal due to problems. But if scan are willing to provide it without a fully assembled machine and they are one of the bigger providers I see no issue.
They can not charge a silly amount for OEM. It is the same basic product as the retail product. Minus tech support. They can not charge much more as people would just move to the retail product if that was the case.
And with regards to purchasing Ultimate...are you really going to need the extra features over Home Premium. Which to be fair 95% of users will not need. Have a think as home premium which has most of the major features can be had for £60ish OEM. Versus the £110 ish of the ultimate edition.
Ultra 197 ex 172 Cup
you need a 64bit processor to run it,not a standard cpu
Better than yours. C*nt.
Not strictly true, you need a processor with 64-bit extensions. They've not yet released a native 64-bit edition of Vista like they did with XP Itanium Edition.
Not a Clio
That's a good point, Ultimate has things he'd never use. I'll suggest he choose Home Premium
That's if you are selling OEM Hardware, not Software, so isn't valid for selling/buying Vista.
Software distribution (i.e. Vista) has to be on a fully assembled PC.
And this is taken from Microsoft.com
(http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/Public/sblicense/2007_SB_Licenses/FY07_SB_License_English.pdf)My 32 bit Vista recognises 3.50GB of my 4GB of RAM.
I bought a new PC with Vista which is more powerful than my old XP machine - the latter only has 1GB of ram for a start and an old single core CPU.
Yet the XP machine is noticeably quicker.
I wouldn't upgrade an XP machine to Vista, you might just as well install a load of spyware if you want to slow your machine down as it will be cheaper!
Can't say there is anything missing on Premium that would make me want Ultimate. I said the same thing when every one spent a fortune buying XP Pro instead of Home. Seems like a high price just to have it say Ultimate at the bottom of the screen when shutting down. I think most people bought XP Pro simply because it said Pro when booting up, they must have cried their eyes out when the service pack turned that off so that it only said Windows XP.
I bought a new PC with Vista which is more powerful than my old XP machine - the latter only has 1GB of ram for a start and an old single core CPU.
Yet the XP machine is noticeably quicker.
I wouldn't upgrade an XP machine to Vista, you might just as well install a load of spyware if you want to slow your machine down as it will be cheaper!
Can't say there is anything missing on Premium that would make me want Ultimate. I said the same thing when every one spent a fortune buying XP Pro instead of Home. Seems like a high price just to have it say Ultimate at the bottom of the screen when shutting down. I think most people bought XP Pro simply because it said Pro when booting up, they must have cried their eyes out when the service pack turned that off so that it only said Windows XP.
indeed, whats quoted above from the scan website is the xp EULA with the title changed to vista.That's if you are selling OEM Hardware, not Software, so isn't valid for selling/buying Vista.
Software distribution (i.e. Vista) has to be on a fully assembled PC.
And this is taken from Microsoft.com
If i was looking for oem license details, i wouldn't be using the scan website, i'd probably try the manufacturers one
the majority of processors, if not all, are 64 bit ready now.
i use vista ultimate at work, i don't use any of the features over premium, i don't even use that aero stuff, like how often do you actually look at your desktop and how difficult it is to click on the tap you want at the bottom rather than having a 3d model of your windows scroll infront of you.
THe only thing I have found useful in vista is the previes popup of tabs at the bottom, thats cool and useful.
The OS has never crashed on me and i have been using it for about 6 months now probably.
THe only thing I have found useful in vista is the previes popup of tabs at the bottom, thats cool and useful.
The OS has never crashed on me and i have been using it for about 6 months now probably.
Better than yours. C*nt.
4Gb actually, including the memory allocated to VGA and other DMA hardware. Typically this appears as anywhere between 3 and 3.75Gb on Vista due to the amount of memory typically reserved for people's graphics, but in early Windows 2000 editions you used a /3gb switch to limit the amount of memory available as it couldn't reliably address anything higher until Physical Address Extensions switch was added circa SP3/4. This is the technology used in 32-bit editions of Windows now (it actually sort-of-converts the machine to 36-bit) but this is much slower than using 64-bit extensions to access up to 16 or 32Gb memory (IIRC - 128Gb in XP x64 as it's Server 2003). This however is not true 64-bit as used in 64-bit Itanium-based servers which allow you to access up to 16 Exabytes of data.
As for editions, yeah I'd say unless you want the backup stuff then Home Premium should be fine...
Audi TT Stronic
I know a great place to get it cheap.. where you're greeted with a hearty ' Arrrr '
The Pirate Bay
I know a great place to get it cheap.. where you're greeted with a hearty ' Arrrr '
The Pirate Bay
LOL! Arrrrh!
Mr Violent. Why dont you give him a copy of an ubuntu live CD? Do away with all this illegal software stuff and its free! ftw!
