what cams?

[Adey.]

im thinkin about getin a set of cams for the 17poo, what have others got and can recomend. The cars a toy really but for cost id like 2 retain the stock ecu, tho i will get that mapped. Cheers

 

[B16DOE]

give k tec a call see what they say but can see it bein well over a grand all done

 

[Middo]

i'd personally go with catcams, or if i was feeling flush schrick.

 

[Adey.]

ok cool, sorry about the other threads, on my mobile and when i hit refresh it resent the form. Dnt mind spending 1ish k for a decent gain

 

[sideways danny]

im thinkin about getin a set of cams for the 17poo, what have others got and can recomend. The cars a toy really but for cost id like 2 retain the stock ecu, tho i will get that mapped. Cheers

the reality is, a standalone ECU can cost you about the same as a set of cams, and that's including fitting and mapping, and IMO the gains are actually better

 

[Adey.]

right, ive taken a leap and orderd up jenvey bodies and omex ecu from ktec, think ive officially got there first off the shelf kit available to the public, was thinking as im going that far i might go for cams now too lol. been looking around mainly at catcams, and have seen the 5502423's any one use them? or can comment? ive seen that these cams retain the vvt and hydralic lifters too

 

[Markpw]

I would go for these ones as work fine for me but i retained OE ecu and havent got ITB's !

http://www.catcams.be/800x600/prod01Adata.htm?PN5502428?PN55024xx.js

 

[Adey.]

u might wana edit that post bud, cant make no sence of it lol

 

[Markpw]

yes i noticed that Doh !

 

[franx]

Yozza was looking into Colombo & Bariani cams a little while back, maybe start to sell them in the UK.
Real happy European customers , heard good things about them.
Same quality (if not better) as Schrick

 

[Daz Clio Cup]

i've got 422's in mine if that's any help with omex and itb's

 

[Adey.]

how do u find them bud?

 

[Daz Clio Cup]

how do u find them bud?

http://www.catcams.be/index.htm

5502428
272 / 256°
236 / 219°
11.30 / 10.25mm
0.55 / 1.55mm
O.E.M.
HYDR: sport
5502421
276 / 268°
240 / 231°
11.25 / 10.25mm
0.65 / 2.25mm
O.E.M.
HYDR: sport
5502420
269 / 256°
231 / 219°
11.25 / 10.25mm
0.40 / 1.55mm
O.E.M.
HYDR: F.I.A.







5502422
284 / 276°
247 / 239°
11.25 / 11.25mm
3.40 / 2.85mm
custom
HYDR: rally & cross
5502423
292 / 284°
255 / 247°
11.25 / 11.25mm
3.95 / 3.40mm
custom
HYDR: rally & race







5502551
288 / 288°
251 / 251°
11.45 / 11.45mm
3.35 / 3.35mm
custom
MECH: rally & race
5502552
295 / 295°
259 / 259°
11.95 / 11.95mm
3.85 / 3.85mm
custom
MECH: rally & race
5502553
304 / 304°
267 / 267°
12.45 / 12.45mm
4.40 / 4.40mm
custom
MECH: rally & race​

 

[Adey.]

sorry, i ment how do YOU find them, as in to drive, power delivery and such?

 

[Daz Clio Cup]

sorry, i ment how do YOU find them, as in to drive, power delivery and such?

very good, smooth, quite a lot of low down power and alot up top but still smooth. gets going about 5.5k/6k

I'd like to try the 423's to see if they have more punch but 422's are very good

do a search for my power graphs from GDI to see how smooth

 

[Adey.]

sweet cheers bud

 

[Kam.]

incase you didn't know both the 422's and 423's require these uprated springs
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/all-othe...rings-pac-e99862-x16-for-clio-mk2-rs-843.html

 

[Dan R]

im thinkin about getin a set of cams for the 17poo, what have others got and can recomend. The cars a toy really but for cost id like 2 retain the stock ecu, tho i will get that mapped. Cheers

I was told that the 428 cat cams are best for top end power???

 

[Kam.]

I was told that the 428 cat cams are best for top end power???

they are the best for top end power if you want to use the OEM Springs and ECU

 

[scoobyrb555]

If I fit 422's and springs can I still use my standard ECU with a good map??? Trying to find the best cams for use with hillclimbs and trackdays but want to retain standard ECU.

 

[sideways danny]

422s are pretty wild, the extra lift at TDC over 428s will be a problem with standard pistons. Wont idle for s**t on the standard ECU either, especially with fly-by-wire throttle as on all ph2s (which does the idle control) If you insist on standard ECU, 428s are what i would use most of the time.

 

[scoobyrb555]

Ok, thanks. Whereabout would you expect gains? Id prefer gains low down rather than at top end. Dont mind idle problems as the car will mainly be used as a track toy. Any other suggestions welcome on type of cams to fit......

 

[sideways danny]

if you want low down gains, I dont think you want cams first TBH. Proper mapping will have great gains above the standard generic calibration. Inlet manifold Matching will also give reasonable bhp and nice torque gains. For ultimate torque gains, throttle bodies. Collected Adeys car yesterday (which has throttle bodies) and drove it about 100 miles, ready for cam fitting. Fell in love with it completely

 

[Tigger]

What about those cars that already have an induction kit, matched inlets, exhaust and custom RStuner - will cams still give gains?

 

[sideways danny]

What about those cars that already have an induction kit, matched inlets, exhaust and custom RStuner - will cams still give gains?

oh dont misunderstand me, cams work. You will normally see good gains, but they will be higher in the rev range. Also seem to make the engine free-er revving IMO. Does depend what ones you use though.

 

[Tigger]

I meant what improvements will they make over the mods I mentioned?

 

[sideways danny]

peak power and torque will be increased. The mods you've listed make minimal measurable gains apart from inlet matching which can do quite a lot in relative terms, but without them there will be restriction once you go furthur, ie. fitting cams. Standard exhaust is poop IMO, hard to get good gains without something freer flowing, but on it's own an exhaust wont normally give power. Cams should give 10+bhp peak, but there's more to it than just a number

 

[Andyman]

Get some 300 quid Piper re-grinds

174lbft on RS tunings RR, roughly 30lbft up on stock

 

[Fred@BTM]

they rattle like hell though

 

[sideways danny]

yeah they rattle lots on the F4R. Extra lift is achieved by removing material from the base circle. We'd use them if people wanted but no-one is happy with the rattling.

 

[Fred@BTM]

how can you gain extra lift by removing material???

 

[sideways danny]

lol, are you serious????

 

[Ali]

yeh fred are you serious!!! lol

 

[TooneySonic]

Get some 300 quid Piper re-grinds

174lbft on RS tunings RR, roughly 30lbft up on stock

yo dude were you there last week? dis you make 186bhp, paul was comparing your output to mine

 

[Coby.]

God Fred I thought you'd know the answrer to this

 

[Fred@BTM]

i'm testing the genius of danny

 

[sideways danny]

of course you are

 

[Fred@BTM]

no really i am!

 

[Andyman]

yo dude were you there last week? dis you make 186bhp, paul was comparing your output to mine

Yeah that was me mate



Fred and Danny. Mine dont rattle a bit!! - Probably just the early ones that rattled

Ok regarded as a low budget alternative but gets the same gains as all these other fancy cams for half the price

 

[TooneySonic]

Hi mate do you know your output before the cam fitment?