What I need to start?

[BenStanley]

Ive always had an interest in photography. Mainly of cars...but never really got into it. Id like to take it up as a hobby and just wondered what ind of prices im looking at for equipment. Where is the best place to start. Best way to learn etc etc. I really have no idea what im doing and only have a crappy point and press camera at the moment.

Please could you include websites for tutorials, equipment etc

Thanks in advance Ben.

 

[Gaz.]

Tutorials - The stickied threads at the top of here are worth a look for a start.

Equipment - Go to Jessops and have a play with some entry level Digital SLRs, find the one that you like best within your budget, and you're onto a good but humble start.

 

[Revels]

Tutorials - Top of the forum

Equipment - Jessops and buy what you can afford like from Nikon or Canon.

 

[BenStanley]

Re: Second Hand Equipment

is a canon eos 10D a god beginner camera?

 

[BenStanley]

But i wouldnt know what i was buying

 

[Clart]

buy what camera

 

[Revels]

But i wouldnt know what i was buying

Do a bit of research first.

For your first camera the most important thing is how it feels in your hands etc.

 

[BenStanley]

is this any good

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nikon-D40-Dig...s_JN?hash=item19b65abf18&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

 

[Jungle_Jim]

If you are wanting to learn more about automotive photography then this book is ace.

http://www.howtodigitallyphotographcars.com/

i bought mine from here.

http://aphrohead.com/Product.aspx?pid=9477961

 

[Jungle_Jim]

Re: Second Hand Equipment

is a canon eos 10D a god beginner camera?

Yes you can pick them up for around £150 even though on first launch they were nearer £2000. Therefore the build quality is ace, you get a magnesium body rather than a plastic one. I got one 5 years ago and have still yet to upgrade.

for the price you wont find better.

there is one for sale here
http://www.mpbphotographic.co.uk/us...ed-canon-digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-10d-2/

 

[GeordieClioDriver]

The EOS 10D is a good starter camera, although you could pick up the 20D for around about £200 which is 8.2mp.

I have a 300D which is the same 6.3mp as the 10D and there is a difference in quality.

Until i got my 1D Mkii i have been using a 20D and it's produced some cracking photos for me!

 

[BenStanley]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nikon-D40-Dig...s_JN?hash=item19b7140c54&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

what should i be paying for this? Hasnt got a battery or anything but would should i bid up to?

 

[Nik.g]

Just buy everything as a whole mate. You will not be able to have a clue what lens you were buying anyway. So as the guys have said, tutorials and a bit of research will go a long way.
I used a D40 as a starter kit and I'm still using it now. D40 should be a good starter kit for you mate.

 

[BenStanley]

https://www.digitaldepotuk.com/index.php/fuji-finepix-s2000hd.html

Also whats this badboy like?http://direct.asda.com/Fujifilm-S1500-Camera/000621427,default,pd.html

 

[BenStanley]

Tutorials are just confusing me at the moment lol

Am defo thinking about the d40 but struggling to find a set for a decent price

 

[Jungle_Jim]

^ ^

Buy that book i suggested it goes right from the basics alway to rigs and studio lighting for cars. its great.

Also i wouldnt recommend getting a bridge camera like that fuji you are much better of with a DSLR

 

[Feirny]

^ ^

Buy that book i suggested it goes right from the basics alway to rigs and studio lighting for cars. its great.

Also i wouldnt recommend getting a bridge camera like that fuji you are much better of with a DSLR

This, listen to this.

 

[mace¬]

Also, as a basic understanding I found this book really useful.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0817463003/?tag=cliospnet01-21

 

[Andy.]

Be aware that the 10D will not accept EF-S lenses from Canon. Most of the cheaper (consumer) lenses designed for Canon digital SLRs are EF-S which means that you will have to use the EF range instead.

Not a disaster but something to be aware of.

 

[Ian]

Hey Ben. Next time we're out at a meet (which should be end of this month if I make it!) you can borrow my camera and have a mess with it for a bit if you like? I'll try and run you through the basics as best as I can.

Also, I have the Understanding Exposure book which Mace has linked to if you want to borrow that for a while. As long as it comes back pristine I don't mind.

If you're eager to get something before then, all of the Nikon and Canon entry level dslrs are a great starting point (Nikon D40, D3000, D5000, D60 etc, Canon 1000D, 350D, 400D etc), although if you really get into it, you may find them a bit limiting. I use a 450D and although there are a few things I wish it had, on the whole it's a very capable camera.

I'd probably agree with a few comments above about looking at secondhand cameras which are higher in the range, like the Canon 10D, 20D, 30D and I guess the D50, D70s and D80 on the Nikon side. Whatever you buy though, make sure you try it first.

 

[Jungle_Jim]

Be aware that the 10D will not accept EF-S lenses from Canon. Most of the cheaper (consumer) lenses designed for Canon digital SLRs are EF-S which means that you will have to use the EF range instead.

Not a disaster but something to be aware of.

this is true and as the 20d and 10d are so similar in price you may be better going for the 20d as its noise controller is better too. having said that you dont loose out too much by not having EF-S fitment, most EF-s lenses tend to be the canon kit lenses which are all that great to start with. yes it was a little annoying as i wanted a cheap wide angle lens and it ment i couldnt get the canon 18-55mm and i didnt want to spend £300+ on the sigma 10-20mm. there are way round it though in the end i picked up a cosina 19-35mm F3.5-4.5 lens for £40 off ebay and it does the job just fine. i used it for all the pics here http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=459326

 

[BenStanley]

Cheers Guys and thanks alot. Cheers Ian think ill have a hold but would be scared of breaking it lol so if you could run me through the basics that'd be great. And ill keep your book in a plastic wallet to make sure its prestine