What would you...

[Jackwoody]

Have payed for this car?,
It's an absolutely mint silver full fat 182 with full service history and a genuine 40,000 miles with a one years garentee and 6 months tax and new Tyres all round?

 

[Gaz_]

Proof of cambelt change and both cup packs?

If so imo a good one without ditchfinder 200 tyres would be ~ 4k ish?

 

[mitch1503]

riiight so what would we????


opps lack of thought there lol im with gaz

 

[Bluebeard]

What age is it? Any previous paintwork? Two keys? Belt history? What make tyres?

 

[Jackwoody]

No paintwork, two keys, I'm 3rd owner, All proof of belt 2005 2x ditchfinders :/

 

[AUTOCRASH]

where were the belts done??? mine done 46k and history and belts to tight and needed doing again and f**ked the dephaser £££££

 

[Bluebeard]

£3500-£4000 private.

 

[lemonnobby]

im with dan as long as the wheels are tidy and has both cup packs

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

Belts done in 2005? They're overdue a change then?

 

[Jackwoody]

£3500-£4000 private.

I've payed £3900 from a garage

Ye both packs and wheels are mint, just been refurbed

 

[Jackwoody]

No the car is 2005

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

Sorry ignore me then lol

 

[lemonnobby]

so has the belts been done

 

[AUTOCRASH]

am i being really stupid here??????????????? a 182 done 40k with history and the belts done in 2005? somthing wrong here!!!

Belts done in 2005? They're overdue a change then?

 

[Bluebeard]

am i being really stupid here???????????????!

Yes.

He means belts have been done, the car is a 2005.

 

[Jackwoody]

Good or bad deal?

 

[Bluebeard]

ITs the going rate I think.

Yes you could have got cheaper but with higher miles. You could have paid more and bought a better colour with lower miles again.

Its all relative.

 

[Stefan.]

going by dan and being a car dealer you seemed to of payed about right and just flol and people getting confused about belts and age of car

 

[Jackwoody]

Ye wanted the pastel blue colour, but was really tidy low milage and needed one!

 

[AUTOCRASH]

agree with the above with that! pay what your happy with! I paid 4k for my inferno as thats what i wanted! if the history is correct and your happy thats what matters!

 

[AUTOCRASH]

just correcting! donut with that with the tea?ill pay!!!

Yes.

He means belts have been done, the car is a 2005.

 

[Bluebeard]

LOL! (Sausage roll, greggs is about 10 doors down)

 

[MartinR]

Pictures! of said mintness

 

[Chip-mk1]

Is it actually mint, or is it just dealer tarted up to look mint, thats the question? lol

Sounds like you paid roughly right, even really really good ones dont seem to be over 4K anymore unless they are a very desirable colour etc.

 

[Jackwoody]

No wear on steering wheel, minimal bolster wear grey paint work, wheels perfect etc.. I will do pics late I'm on a course today

 

[Chip-mk1]

Minimal bolster wear sounds more like "good condition for year" than "mint" TBH

Mint is a word that gets thrown around a lot with car buying and selling and means different things to different people.

Some people say mint meaning "this looks exactly the same as when it was brand new" and others use it to mean "its in quite good condition for year"

 

[Chrisgti6]

I'd say as long as you are happy with it, it doesn't matter what others think really does it?

 

[Chip-mk1]

I'd say as long as you are happy with it, it doesn't matter what others think really does it?

+1

Your car, so all that matters is you prefer it to the money


Well, until you come to sell it, then other's opinions matter and yours doesnt, lol

 

[Sir_Dave]

What i would pay would depend entirely on where the belts were done.

BTM/519/Birchdown - £4k
NWP and/or some other muppet garage - £3k

The latter price bears in mind that the timings probably wrong & everything needs doing again.

For £4k, id also what to see at least 6 stamps in the service book (& invoices), along with a full set of top brand matching tyres.

 

[Chrisgti6]

What i would pay would depend entirely on where the belts were done.

BTM/519/Birchdown - £4k
NWP and/or some other muppet garage - £3k

The latter price bears in mind that the timings probably wrong & everything needs doing again.

£1k to get the timing corrected? lol

 

[Jackwoody]

+1

Your car, so all that matters is you prefer it to the money


Well, until you come to sell it, then other's opinions matter and yours doesnt, lol

That's the thing lol I don't tend to keep cars long so hope I don't lose too much money lol

 

[Sir_Dave]

£1k to get the timing corrected? lol

Might as well get the whole lot done again, so cambelt, aux belt & dephaser. Plus me having to take a day off work/inconvenience, etc.

So yeah, a grand.

 

[Jackwoody]

Minimal bolster wear sounds more like "good condition for year" than "mint" TBH

Mint is a word that gets thrown around a lot with car buying and selling and means different things to different people.

Some people say mint meaning "this looks exactly the same as when it was brand new" and others use it to mean "its in quite good condition for year"

Show me one with no wear?

 

[Fred@BTM]

What i would pay would depend entirely on where the belts were done.

BTM/519/Birchdown - £4k
NWP and/or some other muppet garage - £3k

The latter price bears in mind that the timings probably wrong & everything needs doing again.

For £4k, id also what to see at least 6 stamps in the service book (& invoices), along with a full set of top brand matching tyres.

think i'll have some caviar and a large brandy for lunch followed by a cohiba for after

 

[Chip-mk1]

Show me one with no wear?

A mint one you mean?

I dont have one, they are quite rare now.

 

[Cookson]

Nice bit of NWP bashing by someone thats never had any work done there

lol

 

[R-Sport.]

I've payed £3900 from a garage

Ye both packs and wheels are mint, just been refurbed

Thats ever so slightly over the odds but nothing to be to worried about maybe a couple of hundred than ideal however...
You will see a lot of people on here saying they can get or have bought a minter for 2.5k & im sure there are a few good genuine bargains that have been had out there-
Equally & probably on a far larger scale there have been the 2.5k bargain cars that have required work upwards of 1k to bring it to that ‘mint’ position-

Buying from a dealer will always be more expensive- that people often overlook-

First & foremost because they are actually looking to make profit on a vehicle- & also cover business overheads-
Also because they offer a warranty & PX as well as finance- Something a private seller doesn’t usually do-

The final piece that I guess tarnishes some dealer & traders is for that extra money you are supposed to be buying expertise in the product & car they are selling- that ‘piece’ of mind that the car has been scrutinised to a high standard & any gremlins been rectified-

If you’ve looked at the car at the dealers & its driving fine & there are no problems then even though it seems you may have paid a bit more- essentially you haven’t because out of the current crop of available 182 ‘s on the market I would say perhaps 125 are on offer – maybe only 20% are any good-

So would you rather pay a couple hundred more for a good one or 500 – 750 less for a cr*p one only for it to fall to bits…..

As for the discussion on belts- I have to be VERY careful how I phrase this-
With the specialists on here it’s a bit like buying a fixed rate mortgage – you are buying piece of mind, the specialists do a brilliant job & are worthy of the titles specialists, however there are other garages out there that can & have completed cambelt changes before- all it means is that its something to consider when buying- it doesn’t have a MAJOR effect on price- probably more effects desirability than anything, If it has had the belts done elsewhere- theres nothing wrong with checking what parts they use & what they have replaced- then making an informed decsion..

Enjoy your new car-

Steve

 

[si_hartlepool]

Thats ever so slightly over the odds but nothing to be to worried about maybe a couple of hundred than ideal however...
You will see a lot of people on here saying they can get or have bought a minter for 2.5k & im sure there are a few good genuine bargains that have been had out there-
Equally & probably on a far larger scale there have been the 2.5k bargain cars that have required work upwards of 1k to bring it to that ‘mint’ position-

Buying from a dealer will always be more expensive- that people often overlook-

First & foremost because they are actually looking to make profit on a vehicle- & also cover business overheads-
Also because they offer a warranty & PX as well as finance- Something a private seller doesn’t usually do-

The final piece that I guess tarnishes some dealer & traders is for that extra money you are supposed to be buying expertise in the product & car they are selling- that ‘piece’ of mind that the car has been scrutinised to a high standard & any gremlins been rectified-

If you’ve looked at the car at the dealers & its driving fine & there are no problems then even though it seems you may have paid a bit more- essentially you haven’t because out of the current crop of available 182 ‘s on the market I would say perhaps 125 are on offer – maybe only 20% are any good-

So would you rather pay a couple hundred more for a good one or 500 – 750 less for a cr*p one only for it to fall to bits…..

As for the discussion on belts- I have to be VERY careful how I phrase this-
With the specialists on here it’s a bit like buying a fixed rate mortgage – you are buying piece of mind, the specialists do a brilliant job & are worthy of the titles specialists, however there are other garages out there that can & have completed cambelt changes before- all it means is that its something to consider when buying- it doesn’t have a MAJOR effect on price- probably more effects desirability than anything, If it has had the belts done elsewhere- theres nothing wrong with checking what parts they use & what they have replaced- then making an informed decsion..

Enjoy your new car-

Steve

Well said!!