Which ITBs??

[Quinnie]

Thinking of fitting some ITBs... does any one know if tests have been done to see which are the best?? Jenvey, OMEX etc...

 

[crazycup_racer]

jenvey are the most proven and preferred choice! AT power are also quite good, ben has some on here and thinks they are great!! KTR sport also have a new DTH set, not out on the market yet though (finishing off development)

 

[crazycup_racer]

Personally, id wait for the KTR kit with new ECU.

 

[Bazzon]

It would be between the Jenveys and the AT power ones.

(OMEX is a aftermarket ECU)

There was a thread up before comparing them, there was little to choose between them, it may be worth a search. To find the exact differances in the Kits and the differance in price.

We have Jenveys!

 

[Quinnie]

whys that then?? you get everything with that kit dont you, full setup?

KTR i mean

 

[stan*]

Depends on the install, a short rad is really needed to get the best intake length. Otherwise its more of a compromise.

 

[Da]

Kam Racing have a 20% discount running on Jenvey's at present

 

[crazycup_racer]

All come's down to budget and what you use your car for? KTR kit is complete with a
fully suited ECU that allow's you to keep cruise control etc (not that yours has it lol)

 

[Quinnie]

think i might just give them a call
cheers guys

 

[franx]

^^ do'nt forget you need to modify your throttle too, now you have fly by wire on the Cup. You will need the pedalbox off of a Ph1 me thinks

 

[Quinnie]

^^ do'nt forget you need to modify your throttle too, now you have fly by wire on the Cup. You will need the pedalbox off of a Ph1 me thinks

so i heard... convert to cable throttle

 

[Fred@BTM]

the new KTR ones are made by jenvey, just a different design being direct to head

i don't think k-tec are planning on doing FBW on their throttle body installs for the obvious type approval and probably cost

 

[john182rs]

as a reply to the title of your thread.
Which ITBs?? Big growley ones that will wake your neighbours up at all hours.

 

[jenic]

Could you run on standard management?

What in theory is needed, if you got the jenveys from kam racing and then a cable throttle pedal setup?

 

[Da]

I was thinking those exact questions Mike.

In my limited knowledge, I believe the answer to standard management would be no.

 

[jenic]

In my limited knowledge, I believe the answer to standard management would be no.

I was thinking the same about running on standard management, but people tc/sc on standard, but they will still be running fbw i think.

Also, someone said ktecs management keeps cruise, how? Surely it would need an additional motor to open the throttle.

 

[Da]

I think cruise is simply a part of the ECU - if it's programmed it will work, if not it wont. That's how it was kind of explained to me from Henk when I had one of his RS Tuners.

TC/SC does keep standard management as far as I know.

 

[jenic]

But surely the CC just opens and closes the throttle to achieve a set speed (similar to a PID controller) , so needs a fbw setup, or in this case a motor to open and close the throttle bodies

I have no idea how CC works, just presumed the above.

 

[franx]

supercharger yes, throttlebodies no (original management)

 

[The Boosh!]

If you have ITBS you cannot keep cruise control as its a cable throttle and cruise control runs off FBW.

Cheapest option at the moment is buy the bodies from kam racing (20% discount) and sort out your own ECU & loom.

You could get the whole thing done for around > £1900 if you source the bits right. (obviously will vary depending if you fit yourself or not, I personally would want someone else to fit them)

 

[franx]

^^ yep, only a couple of days left chaps for the nice price on the trumpets from KAM !!

Was that price mentioned above (around 2000) including a custom or smaller Radiator ?

 

[The Boosh!]

There is a GB on here for small rads for 98 quid IIRC

 

[Hutchie]

AT bodies are real nice kit, people underestimate them.

if you want ITB's mega cheap

purchase some bike boddies.

 

[Tony Hunter]

I like our AT's as well,ours are matched with an ECU from Tour de Force.

 

[The Boosh!]

I like our AT's as well,ours are matched with an ECU from Tour de Force.

Which is where I would be getting a loom and ECU from if I were to buy the KAM racing bodies.

Matt does a very nice price on a custom loom and ECU IIRC

 

[Tony Hunter]

Matt is the man.

 

[cliobritt]

I like our AT's as well,ours are matched with an ECU from Tour de Force.

the best price ive found for a mk2 172 kit is £2200. how much did you pay
?

 

[Fred@BTM]

^cheapest isn't always best remember!

 

[172Ben]

^cheapest isn't always best remember!

But they are very good

 

[Fred@BTM]

is that all your cost?

 

[172Ben]

is that all your cost?

Is that meant to be, "Is that all your's cost"

?

 

[Fred@BTM]

no, that was going to be a "f**k me that's cheap!"

 

[172Ben]

FLOL

 

[JB]

Am I right in saying the AT bodies don't cut in to the Slam panel? If so then for that reason I'd probably go with them - also Ben's setup is mint with AT TBs.

 

[172Ben]

 

[Fred@BTM]

yeah ben's is tidy!

 

[Fred@BTM]

you not see my setup craig?

 

[stan*]

no mate?

 

[Da]

So what are the advantages/disadvantages of ITB's over say a S/C?

At £3k + VAT fitted we're in S/C territory really and I just wondered why one would be preferred over the other?

Realistically what gains are expected from ITB's?

 

[Fred@BTM]

your not a fastcar magazine reader then! (didn't think you would be! LOL)

slightly daft due to the costs involved but still, got a decent intake length and kept the oe bonnet latch etc etc, didn't even chop the plastic grille

its cool to see everyone's different installs, the clio market is in a great place at the moment in terms of development!