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Windows 8 Server
- Thread starter cava83
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Nickson
ClioSport Club Member
f**king hate powershell too, windows 2008 is a a great os!
The lack of GUI......
I have to cover so many different products that I can't be learning loads of different languages, every product I cover has a different cli, it's ridiculous so I need to rely on GUIs to actually keep me sane, my heads full enough as it is. For someone who just looks after windows servers I'm sure it's a great tool, for my job,mot so much. The only command line I really use is on netapp as I kind of have to to do anything useful.
I have to cover so many different products that I can't be learning loads of different languages, every product I cover has a different cli, it's ridiculous so I need to rely on GUIs to actually keep me sane, my heads full enough as it is. For someone who just looks after windows servers I'm sure it's a great tool, for my job,mot so much. The only command line I really use is on netapp as I kind of have to to do anything useful.
problem is, i deal with installing the following:
cisco
Hp Networking
Windows 2008 (+clustering)
HP Virtual Connect
VMWare ESXi
VMWare SRM
HP EVA
HP 3PAR
HP p4000
HP p2000
HP Insight control
NetApp
Backup Exec
Symantec Enterprise Vault
Veeam
Brocade Fibre Switches
and they all have different GUIs and different scripting and command lines.
I have a fighting chance with the GUIs, id need to specialise in one area to master a CLI
With NetApp, 3Par and cisco I kind of have to use CLI, the rest i can get away with the GUI. Its frustrating enough remembering all the different default IP addresses and login details for them all, then you have cisco and hp networking which are annoyingly close together, but still different etc.
cisco
Hp Networking
Windows 2008 (+clustering)
HP Virtual Connect
VMWare ESXi
VMWare SRM
HP EVA
HP 3PAR
HP p4000
HP p2000
HP Insight control
NetApp
Backup Exec
Symantec Enterprise Vault
Veeam
Brocade Fibre Switches
and they all have different GUIs and different scripting and command lines.
I have a fighting chance with the GUIs, id need to specialise in one area to master a CLI
With NetApp, 3Par and cisco I kind of have to use CLI, the rest i can get away with the GUI. Its frustrating enough remembering all the different default IP addresses and login details for them all, then you have cisco and hp networking which are annoyingly close together, but still different etc.
Impressive list. I haven't used 95% of that stuff.
Anyway, back on topic, the server versions can be installed with the GUI, although its Metro its impact on a server will be minimal as most admins will use remote tools. Server Manager would be the biggest change if you were looking to get started.
Anyway, back on topic, the server versions can be installed with the GUI, although its Metro its impact on a server will be minimal as most admins will use remote tools. Server Manager would be the biggest change if you were looking to get started.
Rav4
Handy, but not greater.
Steeper learning curve, if you don't have a manual and or google, commands are relatively hard within reason.
With a gui point and click.
I know you won't admit it, but a gui can be much quicker.
They don't always. Quite a few of the Windows and System Center GUIs are wrappers around PowerShell.
Cookie
ClioSport Club Member
They have to develop for the lowest common denominator
Server 8 isnt supposed to be run with a GUI natively, they are going down the ESX route and you are supposed to manage the server with the remote managment snap ins, thus metro is not a problem
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Server 8 isnt supposed to be run with a GUI natively, they are going down the ESX route and you are supposed to manage the server with the remote managment snap ins, thus metro is not a problem
GP
Maybe the virtualised platform people will be using it for, but they are never going to get away from people wanting a GUI to manage the server natively, even with VMware, you manage all your servers with the native GUI, it's only the underlying virtualised platform which is managed with a GUI (yes, tis still a GUI!) tool.
Windows will always have a GUI as an option, as 99% of people will use the GUI and never touch the command line when managing them.
