Aux belt slipping.

[Lil-slugger]

Hiya guys.

right, for a while now when the weather is a little damp the aux belt has always had a little slip and a chirp, but I knew as soon as It got warm it would stop.

Now it's getting reaaaaallllllyyyyyyy bad!!! I've got a new belt and aim to change it on Saturday, the tensioners are a fortune so I'm gunna see if the belt once done is just the root of the problem.
but I've noticed all of the pullies are damp!! Not wet from a leak or covered in oil, but just damp.... So this will also contribute to the slip idge, any one got a similar issue or a solution.

oh and any correct/easy way to change belt?? I'm a mechanic and I've done plenty belts just not one of these and am sick of hearing horror stories about them

 

[Dan519]

genuine kit it about 40% of the price of buying motor factor parts. £72 for the whole lot, or usually £145 for the tensioner on it's own if you get it in a gates box. Don't skimp, just do the lot, you're wasting your time doing anything else

 

[Lil-slugger]

I've got a gates belt and was cheap at £15 with my discount

What's best way to get belt off. How do you take tension off of the belt, not sure on how this type of tensioner works

 

[rich_clio172]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...ulley-Guide&highlight=fitting+alternator+belt

 

[slob]

Dan. How much in labour would it be roughly at a specialist for belt and new tensionar. Going To get mines done fir piece if mind as it is squeaking on damp cold mornings.

 

[Lil-slugger]

Hmmmm won't let me access the page/hyperlink

 

[lemonnobby]

genuine kit it about 40% of the price of buying motor factor parts. £72 for the whole lot, or usually £145 for the tensioner on it's own if you get it in a gates box. Don't skimp, just do the lot, you're wasting your time doing anything else

for £72 quid i second what dan said also the idler wheel at the bottom doesnt last long.

 

[Dan519]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/show...ulley-Guide&highlight=fitting+alternator+belt

I honestly disagree with the vast majority of the advice and methods used in that "guide"

 

[shiftspark]

I honestly disagree with the vast majority of the advice and methods used in that "guide"

Well get your tool ready then lol I will have one!

 

[Dan519]

Well get your tool ready then lol I will have one!

ah yes, I've got the bits to make a few actually. Gave the first one to the new tech at K-tec when I went down last week

 

[Silent_Scone]

Always looks so messy, screw air con

 

[MicKPM]

Dan. How much in labour would it be roughly at a specialist for belt and new tensionar. Going To get mines done fir piece if mind as it is squeaking on damp cold mornings.

We do them for £120 fitted

 

[Dan519]

We do them for £120 fitted

under valueing your time Mick.

I'm £139.50 (part cost + 1.5 hours)

 

[slob]

We do them for £120 fitted

Wow. Wish I was closer.

 

[Lil-slugger]

Right I've changed the belt using the method of dropping the alternator forward.
Just before I put everything back together, what's the best method to get full tension back on the belt as I've noticed when putting the alternator back in position it's still slack.

 

[Lil-slugger]

Oh and does the belt run under the idle or over.... Seems at the correct tension under.... But wasn't like that when took it off

 

[Dan519]

over the lower idler

you need a new tensioner and idler. This isn't a "maybe" sitauation. It's an auto tensioner, if the belt was loose, the tensioner is seized

 

[Lil-slugger]

Bugger. Ok mate thank you for that.
So just to recap.....
when new tensioner is in place (clamped with jubilee) with idler fitted and belt in place, alternator has one resting place??
release tension on jubilee, belt should tension hey presto right??

why then can't be a normal friggin tensioner!!!!

 

[MicKPM]

why then can't be a normal friggin tensioner!!!!

Because everything to do with the AC equipped X65 aux belt run was compromise. This is also why the 172 Cup is simples to work on.

 

[Lil-slugger]

Grrrrrr lol.... The French do know how to screw it up....

so am i correct in the steps I need to take to rebuild?

 

[Lil-slugger]

Just to let you all know !! If your gunna do this job, go to renault main dealer, they sell the tensioner, aux belt and idler pulley all genuine parts for £72 all in!!!
and tbh once bumper and headlight are out and alternator is slackened off its a fiddle

 

[Lil-slugger]

Doddle even haha

 

[lemonnobby]

correct they do as we all said that

 

[Lil-slugger]

Hmmm not sure that was needed...

 

[Dan519]

Well to be fair.....

genuine kit it about 40% of the price of buying motor factor parts. £72 for the whole lot,

for £72 quid i second what dan said also the idler wheel at the bottom doesnt last long.

That should have given you a pretty clear idea before you went

Just to let you all know !! If your gunna do this job, go to renault main dealer, they sell the tensioner, aux belt and idler pulley all genuine parts for £72 all in!!!
and tbh once bumper and headlight are out and alternator is slackened off its a fiddle