Cam locking tool.

[Dixie]

Hi all.

Looking at doing the cam belt kit on the missus' 172. Probably gonna use euro car parts kit.

However. Every post on here stresses the importance of the cam locking tool. Is it possible to rent this tool rather than forking out the £40 ish dealer price. (It is £40 ish right???)

Seems daft to buy one when i'll no doubt only be doing it the one time.

Cheers!!

 

[Fred@BTM]

tool? TOOLS, PLURAL! there are 3 in total

add £100+ to your £40

myself, Birchdown, Rentech, Angelworks and JMS (maybe more) will all tell you you MUST release the inlet and exhaust cam pullies to do the cambelt proedure correctly

i don't care what anyone else says, it is the correct procedure, i've tried it several times without releasing the inlet and exhaust pulies, it never lines up properly end of thread!

 

[sideways danny]

i don't care what anyone else says, it is the correct procedure, i've tried it several times without releasing the inlet and exhaust pulies, it never lines up properly end of thread!

agree 100%. Even though Renault give 2 procedures, it's never accurate enough to satisfy me without slackening and cleaning out EVERYTHING

 

[Riley!]

All im going to say is mine were changed a year ago with lazer tools and has done the job just fine

 

[sideways danny]

Laser pins are fine, but the cam alignment bar bends (it's not even hardened!!!!!), and a pulley locking tool doesn't exist at all

 

[Riley!]

changed mine and another f4r belt with them and no problems. Cam alignment bar seems upto the job to me. I dont see how on earth you would bend it

 

[GodSpeed]

changed mine and another f4r belt with them and no problems. Cam alignment bar seems upto the job to me. I dont see how on earth you would bend it

If you dont care to slacken the pullies you are unlikley to bend it correct. IMO the biggest amount of force goes in to the cams when tightening the pulleys up. BUT as Fred and all the other chaps with propper experience say you wount get the tention to 100% perfect without slacking the pullies.

Cant realy see how £140 could be to much to pay for the propper tools. Just plain madness. Cant afford that you cant affort the car, sell it at once!

 

[franx]

^^ yeah you have to be up to speed on all costs of running these little buggers.

BUT i can understand someone NOT wanting to spend 140 on tools he will prob use ONCE in a lifetime (if he sticks to the car and all goes well)

 

[Tom]

We (CS) did consider purchasing a set and offering a hire service.

But the deposit would have to be similar to the price of the tool for it to work.

Plus i'd rather one of the specialists on here did it properly.

 

[Riley!]

Didnt slacken the pulleys come to think of it, seem to remember it taking a while to get some good tension in there, but it got there after cranking over by hand then re-tensioning a few times.

10k+ down the line and its fine, speaks for itself really

 

[clio 182 racer]

I started doing the belt on my 182 today n slackened off the exhaust pulley in able to get the cam lockin tool into place as wouldn't line up. don't no how far exhaust cam moved round. is all timeed up ok, would this have any effect on the vvt if that cam wasn't moved back to where it was b4?

 

[Fred@BTM]

eh?

 

[clio 182 racer]

well after doin the belt and road testin. it didn't seem a quick top end wonderin if vvt needed settin up or am i talkin b****ks. the car idles an runs fine, just under acceleration don't feel as quick advise pls lol.

 

[172Ben]

sounds good :S

 

[Fred@BTM]

timing sounds off

did you put the crank locking pin in the right slot?
did you fit the horse shoe ok?
did you use the pulley tool?

 

[iimushroomzii]

You've fucked it up.

 

[clio 182 racer]

ah pulley tool epic fail lol is. didn't have that!
any pics of it an where can i get hold of 1.

crank pin went in the right slot, horse shoe was tight goin in as cams were slightly out.

car run fine tho

 

[Fred@BTM]

 

[Tom]

LOL, im so going to ban cambelt threads after today.

 

[clio 182 racer]

opps neva had the cam tool. must have it nearly time up properly as it runs ok. funny side tho the girl friends just taken the car to wrk 60mls away an she got there ok.

how much an where can i get one from?

 

[Fred@BTM]

renault only, not cheap from memory, a few mm off and you can loose 30bhp, i s**t you not

 

[clio 182 racer]

as mush as that it needs sortin it is maxin out at just ova 120 need sortin it aint right thank a lot for the advise m8.

 

[SymonSi84]

Used search but still don't know so to get this straight. Even if i buy something like this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Renault-Timin...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4a9ff2fbf5
I would still need cam pulley locking tools eich can be bought only at Renault dealer for not so nice price? Or I may have incorrect timing and less hp? :S

EDIT: So basicly to fit cams correctly I also need this? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sykes-Renault...iagnostic_Tools_Equipment&hash=item25571d02bc

 

[Cro]

Yes need all of the above, BUT the horseshoe is known to bend on brands other than laser

 

[Fred@BTM]

laser ones bend too

RENAULT ONLY!

 

[Cro]

Oh yeah thats what I meant Fred, thanks had laser on my mind when I was looking at those pics