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Im not 100% sure, original answer i think was rear of the car isnt strong enough, but thats been proved wrong in this thread.
I think if I went to the new LEDA today and asked them to make them they would. I can try.....
Dave
I dont think this thread has proved it wrong. No disrespect to Fred but he doesnt manufacture suspension. I would like to see a picture of the suspension mount on a cup racer to see if there is any modification to it.
Anyone got a pic?
Whats Mark Fish' opinion on this then? Would be interesting to get his input.
AST has NOT COPIED any other suspension design on the rear. its there own development. theyve been doin it long enough to have an idea of how to go about it!
Because they just use the simple spring and shock idea which is easier as the car already has it. AST couldnt understand why noone else had done it so they decided that they would give it a go. There a big company with a massive amount of knowledge and experience!
they are not saying they have copied any one, they are saying they have taken a damper design which they probably all ready have and adapeted it for the clio rear fitting.
Which is probably true, im sure they already had a coilover unit like this avaliable for a different car and they have tweeked it for the clio.
Which is probably true, im sure they already had a coilover unit like this avaliable for a different car and they have tweeked it for the clio.
The ast's have a bush in the base and as fred told me it has a special mounting at the bottom too and doesnt bolt solid.
Probably. they do make a massive range of suspension. It works on the back and its as simple as that. People sayin that they have known of probs on the rear on the cup cars is irrelevant as a road car is not a race car and does not go through the same level of stress and punishment.
For the AST's?
I dont mean to sound it. Its like text messages on here i guess. people can take things the wrong way!
sorryYes for the AST's. I would like a price on the rear units and what i can specify when ordering, like spring rates etc etc.
Would also like to know if they offer a spring exchange like LEDA used to?
Thanks
lift number 1 @ btm
^ from the sound of it, these are still very much in development. it's just that dan has ignored the usual route of hype and drip feeding information. i for one think that when finished these should be both top quality and great value for money. and also a top piece of initiative too! hope you are getting yours free dan!!
I spoke to curtis at powerstation earlier and he will probably beable to sell the rears on there own but wouldnt be happy with it as he cant guarantee the handling on the car as there are 2 different manufacturers bein used and the shocks dont match which is not always a good idea. He said hes tried it in the past with mixed results! just sell your lot and buy the kit!
At least there all new then and can be rebuilt etc
If the rears didnt work id take them off and go back to the LEDA's + with out sounding rude the handling of the car wouldnt be his problem as he wouldnt be fitting or setting up the car.
I dont want to sell the whole kit, I like the leda's, the adjustment on the front looks bette then the AST aswell, I cant see how i could set the same camber i have now with the AST kit looking at those pictures.
I dont want to sell the whole kit, I like the leda's, the adjustment on the front looks bette then the AST aswell, I cant see how i could set the same camber i have now with the AST kit looking at those pictures.
Not quite but very discounted and have not paid for fitting, setup or corner weighting etc.
They are basically done to be honest. We are stickin with the 280lb springs on the front but are changing the rears to a 225lb instead of 250lb as i think its a fraction too much.(not a bad guess by him tho)
As for someone askin earlier about lack of suspension travel on the back i was right in sayin that on the pic the rear bumpstop is not pushed to the bottom. After speakin to him today he has said that there is between 50 and 60mm of travel which is more than sufficient.
They will be ready to order by the end of the month and im sure if you ring and speak to curtis you will beable to change the spec i have if so desired. As i said anyone can come and drive my car and see what they think. I think for the money they will be very good! even if they end up bein slighty more than the H&R's at least they will give you full adjustment which is something that driving around ive found is a great aspect of them. simple twist and it feels easily as comfortable as the standard car
I asked curtis about the camber and if you want more then he can have them made to allow that or just use camber bolts! Up to you really
Yeah no worries. As i said call powerstation and ask for curtis(option 2)
Mention me and he will sory you out. Hes a relly nice and helpful lad.
Im based near stratford upon avon. (where shakespeare was born)
In a town called evesham.
Not yet to be honest. I got asked by powerstation to go with them to the ring next month but am mega skint and got bid credit card bills
Will have to arrange a meet or arrange another trackday or something.
Yeah bit of an unfair comparison. too many things to take into consideration. A massive trackday would be cool tho.
megan R26.R number 006
i like the idea of testing them at the same time by the same driver but like most things i fear that this will never happen
I doubt it very much too! Also depends what that particular driver prefers the feel of. It may not be the best car but mite just be the one he prfers!
Not wishing to put the compnay down im sure these are good but just because a company can make good stuff doens't mean they always do.
I think everyone would prefere it not to.
Depends what your looking for though.
THey won't be valve etc wise gaz are rubish IMO.
There back in business that woulnd't put me of buying there stuff.
Everyone is allowed there own opinion edde i know but by the sounds of your last thread you were just out to pi*s people off! Yes the coilovers that ive had develpoed may not be everyones cup of tea but at least it gives people more to choose from. as far as im concerned ive done good. Ive not bugged them up at all and said there the best i just said heres another good choice from a well established manufacturer!!!!! saying (DEPENDS WHAT YOUR LOOKIN FOR) in relation to camber is true yes but im just tellin you what he thinks is best for the road thats all. and like i also said if you want to run more you can but he sees no reason for me too. I didnt say it was the law to not run 2 degrees. i just said he thinks theres no reason!
lift number 1 @ btm
i'm the same, i think my car has about 1 degree. which makes the car much less nervous, and easier to drive smoothly. if i want it to turn in sharper i just have to turn the wheel a bit further. also since i drive it every day, on the roads where i live it would be unbearable with much more than that.
Thats basically what curtis said. im running 1.25 deg neg. He did it mainly cos i do a thousand miles a month! and like i said it can also affect other areas such as braking accelrating etc etc.
Not that i am aware of. There pretty damn strong tho! There not just any old bolt.
Mt last thread do you mean my last post on this thread if you know me you know I don't piss people off on purpose.
Choice is good I don't argue that. What i do argue with is (and this ins't just you) [people saying xyz must be good as its made by people with years experaince that means nothing ive seen some real junk from companies with huge reps and histroy before now a good part will speak for itself long term.
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