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Robs Crash
- Thread starter fuel_slut
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Clio 197
Glad everyone's ok.
As for people speculating about the vehicle's speed:
Don't forget that we're accustomed to the grippy surface of the road (even in the wet believe it or not), and we're accustomed to being able to brake/steer a vehicle in order to control it. In a car such as the 172/182, control is an absolute doddle at 40MPH (in normal conditions)...
...but when you lose all grip, even 30MPH car be pretty fast... and ultimately the car's energy HAS to be transferred/transformed somehow.
Furthermore, MOST of a vehicle's design strength is in its crumple zones (ie front/rear impacts) therefore when you roll a vehicle it dissipates energy in a very different way to how its been designed. Body parts can easily become dislodged in such an accident.
So we must look at it from that point of view (ie total loss of grip + an unfortunate body roll), rather than normal conditions (normal grip, and your typical accident damage).
As for people speculating about the vehicle's speed:
Don't forget that we're accustomed to the grippy surface of the road (even in the wet believe it or not), and we're accustomed to being able to brake/steer a vehicle in order to control it. In a car such as the 172/182, control is an absolute doddle at 40MPH (in normal conditions)...
...but when you lose all grip, even 30MPH car be pretty fast... and ultimately the car's energy HAS to be transferred/transformed somehow.
Furthermore, MOST of a vehicle's design strength is in its crumple zones (ie front/rear impacts) therefore when you roll a vehicle it dissipates energy in a very different way to how its been designed. Body parts can easily become dislodged in such an accident.
So we must look at it from that point of view (ie total loss of grip + an unfortunate body roll), rather than normal conditions (normal grip, and your typical accident damage).
Sunflower & Golf Mk6 BMT
I wish I has taken a pic of the road further up where rob started to lose control.
He was fighting with it for a while to keep it on the road.
The road had embedded mud, greese from salt, loose gravel ,also looked abit oily but not sure. The police man also said there were patches of black ice.
End of the day we were still driving too fast for the conditions but was just unlucky as we turned a corner at hit a horrible patch of road. :-(
He was fighting with it for a while to keep it on the road.
The road had embedded mud, greese from salt, loose gravel ,also looked abit oily but not sure. The police man also said there were patches of black ice.
End of the day we were still driving too fast for the conditions but was just unlucky as we turned a corner at hit a horrible patch of road. :-(
Clio 197
That can only be confirmed by the driver of the wrecked vehicle. If he'd already encountered icy/muddy patches on that road, then perhaps one could say so...
...but if it had been clear all the way up to that point, he may have had good reasons to believe that the conditions were OK - see what I mean?
If the windscreen were dirty or there were some glare from the sun, then he may not have seen the muddy patch early enough to react.
Regardless, it doesn't necessarily mean that the speed limits were broken... but there's certainly a lesson to be learnt somewhere.
Drive safely folks.
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mini cooper (RIP 172)
only seemed like two rolles, i was sure i was gona save it, but i just had no control of the car!
i'm sure if the mud was not on the road i'd not of lost it, but it was and i did!
just think we are lucky to walk a way from it!
thanks for everyone for helpping me out, big thanks to rick and gem (and the other fairy
)
and for eveyone thats had been asking, car's still in the field so if bits go missing i'll know who it was
i'm just letting the insurance company sort it out, so not selling any bits! but i did save the mats:rasp:
i'm sure if the mud was not on the road i'd not of lost it, but it was and i did!
just think we are lucky to walk a way from it!
thanks for everyone for helpping me out, big thanks to rick and gem (and the other fairy
)and for eveyone thats had been asking, car's still in the field so if bits go missing i'll know who it was
i'm just letting the insurance company sort it out, so not selling any bits! but i did save the mats:rasp:
Leon Cupra 300
Me and Mr Fuel Slut were follwing pretty close behind! We spotted the mud and slowed down, as we were slowing we saw Rob's back end go rite out (heading straight towards a tree the other side of the road) obviously hitting that is not an option, then it flicked back the other way and into the verge. If you look in the last picture rite at the bottom you can see bits of splitter where it first went off. Then him and poor Carl were just passengers and were lucky to come out with just minor injuries.
mini cooper (RIP 172)
road was a bit wet ect before, but no mud! so i was not driving silly fast!
then mud every where from the entrance to the field, just at a little bend in the road.
think i must of backed off seeing the mud, so the back end came out a bit, was coming to a give way so prob startting to slow from that as well!
lets face it, i was goin to fast, if i was doin 20mph the car would be fine, just a little muddy
i'm sure i was not speeding tho!
then mud every where from the entrance to the field, just at a little bend in the road.
think i must of backed off seeing the mud, so the back end came out a bit, was coming to a give way so prob startting to slow from that as well!
lets face it, i was goin to fast, if i was doin 20mph the car would be fine, just a little muddy
i'm sure i was not speeding tho!
you did well Harry thinking straight.....best way is to only leave a few ppl then it doesn look like everyones been racing! even tho u werent police wud have put 2 and 2 together!
and takes the pressure off Rob if the police intergate him about racing
Recaro'd 182
there was a 172 that got ritten off on the backroads near me, after 2 days it was stripped! alloys the lot. there are alot of pikies around! save what you can i say, if u dont someone else will.
End of the day glad you both ok! looking at the pictures a second time makes me wonder how the hell you walked out.
End of the day glad you both ok! looking at the pictures a second time makes me wonder how the hell you walked out.
Clio Sport 172
just seen this pic, thats head blood
also looks like a shat my self
I noticed the airbag on the steering wheel didnt go off. Thats not very re assuring lol, Bloody lucky though!
172
LOL.also looks like a shat my self
only seemed like two rolles, i was sure i was gona save it, but i just had no control of the car!
i'm sure if the mud was not on the road i'd not of lost it, but it was and i did!
just think we are lucky to walk a way from it!
thanks for everyone for helpping me out, big thanks to rick and gem (and the other fairy
and for eveyone thats had been asking, car's still in the field so if bits go missing i'll know who it was
i'm just letting the insurance company sort it out, so not selling any bits! but i did save the mats:rasp:
who wants to collect the bumpers for me???
glad your ok fella, considering
Leon Cupra 300
850 T5. mmmm Turbo!
only seemed like two rolles, i was sure i was gona save it, but i just had no control of the car!
i'm sure if the mud was not on the road i'd not of lost it, but it was and i did!
just think we are lucky to walk a way from it!
thanks for everyone for helpping me out, big thanks to rick and gem (and the other fairy
and for eveyone thats had been asking, car's still in the field so if bits go missing i'll know who it was
i'm just letting the insurance company sort it out, so not selling any bits! but i did save the mats:rasp:
who wants to collect the bumpers for me???
glad your ok fella, considering
ill go, i already have the exhaust off and hidden just incase they think it fell off in the crash.
It doesn't automatically go off every crash (as that could potentially cause more injuries), you need a reasonably hefty front collision to trigger the steering wheel bag. From the description of the crash it sounded like only the side bags were needed, which are what triggered by the looks of the pics.
who wants to collect the bumpers for me???
glad your ok fella, considering
ill go, i already have the exhaust off and hidden just incase they think it fell off in the crash.
insurance company find a bare shell prop'd up un breeze blocks lol
850 T5. mmmm Turbo!
clio 172
s**t the bed man
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