Just trying to settle and arguement with a friend...
Left foot braking is more or less useful in a car with an LSD?
Thanks
Sam
Just trying to settle and arguement with a friend...
Left foot braking is more or less useful in a car with an LSD?
Thanks
Sam
I prefere heel and toeing to left foot braking,but its whatever you get along best with really
I prefere heel and toeing to left foot braking,but its whatever you get along best with really
Apples and Oranges, two different techniques for two different things.
Leftfoot braking is for changing the balance of the car through corners (eg for correcting understeet).
Heel and Toeing is for matching engine revs with the gearbox when changing down, and unless you are using straight cut gears it isnt going to make much difference
Apples and Oranges, two different techniques for two different things.
Leftfoot braking is for changing the balance of the car through corners (eg for correcting understeet).
Heel and Toeing is for matching engine revs with the gearbox when changing down, and unless you are using straight cut gears it isnt going to make much difference
I'm confused. How do straight cut gears (or lack of) render H&T changes redundant?
Can someone say if my 172 Cup has straight cut gears?
I'm confused. How do straight cut gears (or lack of) render H&T changes redundant?
Can someone say if my 172 Cup has straight cut gears?
Straight cut gears require you blip the throttle to bring engine speed up to gearbox speed for the gears to mesh.
Helix cut gears as found on road cars use a syncromesh, which does the same job for you, so no use in heel and toeing
(ish, im not very good at explainations)
Heel and Toe changing is a seperate thing all together.
It's about matching engine speed to road speed for the relevant lower gear you're about to engage.
Try going from 3rd to 2nd at 50mph without blipping the throttle - you'd almost head-butt the windscreen.
Blip the throttle first and progress/decceleration remains smooth and balanced.
I always use this on the bike, a quick blip of the throttle on every down change helps the rear wheel grip and not lock up under heavy braking.
Their are quite a few bike out there now with slipper clutches, which helps alot on the track.
In a car I can't be bother to mess about with anything like that, I'd rather concetrate on my line and apex.
I always use this on the bike, a quick blip of the throttle on every down change helps the rear wheel grip and not lock up under heavy braking.
This is interesting:
In addition, many modern vehicles use a "Drive By Wire" or Electronic throttle control system instead of the traditional mechanical throttle linkage. These systems have a safety interlock that prevents left foot braking. The car's ECU can detect when both pedals are pressed simultaneously and will immediately cut the engine power for safety reasons.
This is interesting:
In addition, many modern vehicles use a "Drive By Wire" or Electronic throttle control system instead of the traditional mechanical throttle linkage. These systems have a safety interlock that prevents left foot braking. The car's ECU can detect when both pedals are pressed simultaneously and will immediately cut the engine power for safety reasons.
I always use this on the bike, a quick blip of the throttle on every down change helps the rear wheel grip and not lock up under heavy braking.
As soon as my Cup arrived I started practicing heel and toe downshifts - don't even think about that now, comes naturally.
Learning left-foot braking - now that's been hard work! Still got lots of work to do on my sensitivity. Getting my auto Omega soon will help me practice though - no clutch to bother with :approve:
This is interesting:
In addition, many modern vehicles use a "Drive By Wire" or Electronic throttle control system instead of the traditional mechanical throttle linkage. These systems have a safety interlock that prevents left foot braking. The car's ECU can detect when both pedals are pressed simultaneously and will immediately cut the engine power for safety reasons.
Sorry, but that's not true with my 182. whether other owners will agree or not I don't know. As soon as I hit the apex of a bend, it's on full throttle with my left foot dragging the brake to stop the understeer.
As for heel and toe braking, tried it from high speed and you can really tell the diffreence in the balance of the car if it's bumpy or slightly bendy road
An example it used is in a race situation where your cornering under power you brake with your left foot to control the understeer, but if your cornering under power you want to go faster so why brake at all?
Carry on,I'm just having a little at all this![]()
I always use this on the bike, a quick blip of the throttle on every down change helps the rear wheel grip and not lock up under heavy braking.
Their are quite a few bike out there now with slipper clutches, which helps alot on the track.
In a car I can't be bother to mess about with anything like that, I'd rather concetrate on my line and apex.
Although to me, slipper clutches promote lazyness.
Proper throttle downchanges for the win!
You've said it all Russ'
smooth
balance
momentum
line
all=exit speed.Fast in slow out.Slow in fast out.
Somebody said they had trouble lfb,put a marble in your shoe to get the feel of the pedal