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gutted....... advice please



  172
hey people, not the best first post but last nite i went to pick up my first clio 172 been saving for a while. it is a blue 172 from stafford fp02 ufg fell in love with the car then 10 mins down the motorway the bonnet flys open and smashes the window and roof in very badly!! gutted isn't even close to how i felt! but to cut the story short the car had a "small" front end crash which has been repaired. got the car home and my dad who is a mechanic has had the car on the lift and there's a few things it should not have passed the mot on like the rear wheel has got about 2inches of play in where either the wheel hub hasnt been done up or bearings shot and the car was only mot'd 2 days ago!! have phoned the garage where the mot was done and just waiting to speak to the tester tommorow and thinking report them to vosa or some kind of compensation. anyone know this car as it does have cliosport.net stickers? what would you do?
 
  Rusty Cup
Sweet jesus thats bad luck mate sorry to hear about it!! from what ive heard if the bonnet has damaged the roof its likely to be an insurance write off..
 
  182 FF
Report the MOT station dude and go back to the guy who you bought the car off, you still have the same consumer rights as when you buy from a dealer and its not fit for purpose is it ie. you've been sold a dangerous vehicle (not much you can do a bout the roof though). Go Citizens advice if you get no joy
 
  172
yeah definately take him next time. i do have bad luck with vehicles! going to report them in the morning was trying to give the garage a chance to see what they said first. i can get it repaired already had that checked but not really the point when you spend that much on something!
 
  PB 182 (1 of 29)
Report the MOT station dude and go back to the guy who you bought the car off, you still have the same consumer rights as when you buy from a dealer and its not fit for purpose is it ie. you've been sold a dangerous vehicle (not much you can do a bout the roof though). Go Citizens advice if you get no joy

This.
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
If you've bought the car privately there is FCUK ALL you can do. Not a single thing. So don't waste your time/money chasing the bloke.

If you bought it from a trader (either off a forecourt or from his driveway) then you will have more than enough of a case to take the heap back and get your money back.

I have to ask though, if your Dad is a mechanic why on earth did he let you go and look at a car without him??
 
  172
If you've bought the car privately there is FCUK ALL you can do. Not a single thing. So don't waste your time/money chasing the bloke.

If you bought it from a trader (either off a forecourt or from his driveway) then you will have more than enough of a case to take the heap back and get your money back.

I have to ask though, if your Dad is a mechanic why on earth did he let you go and look at a car without him??

because he has better things to do! and i can still take the mot station down, it has done just over 100 miles since the mot 3 days ago and have taken pictures of all failures will contact vosa tommorow anyway see what they say
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
because he has better things to do! and i can still take the mot station down, it has done just over 100 miles since the mot 3 days ago and have taken pictures of all failures will contact vosa tommorow anyway see what they say

He has better things to do than help his son?? Cool Dad...

I personally think you will get absolutely nowhere with VOSA. An MOT test is a test to prove the car is to a standard at that moment in time. The only exception (iirc) is rust. Theres a 3 month window with rust.

And if you never paid for the MOT at the MOT station (I'm assuming the seller got it MOT'd for you?) you never had a contract with the MOT station and you are a third party.

I don't mean to sound rude or piss on your fire, but i'm just telling you how I see it.
 

Alastair.

ClioSport Club Member
  986'S 172ph1+182FF
What other things does ya dad think it should have failed on mate? Trying to complain about mots is a hard one as the tester can say it was fine at the time of test, who knows whats been done to it since. The only thing vosa really has an eye for is rust, and that can be upto 3months from when the vehicle was tested.
 
  172
No worries mate that's why I'm here just trying for advice, as for the dad he is pretty cool just I never ask as I am 25 and had a mate with me, learn from your mistakes hey? Could have been worse! As for the other bits there are about 7-10 points as we did check with his mot man but will still try vosa as noting to loose
 
  White clique
Sorry to hear the horrid story. The bonnet thing could be something to do with the dodgy catches that Renault recalled, but i'm pretty sure all of these got repaired when they went in for services (assuming the car was renault serviced). The other mechanical problems may not have contributed to the crash, so the garage might offer to put right the other faults you found (if you bought it from a garage). I'd deffo be stright back there like s**t off a shovel though, and i speak from experience, having bought a car which had its engine written off 1 week after i bought it (and i got my money back).
 
  renault 172
No worries mate that's why I'm here just trying for advice, as for the dad he is pretty cool just I never ask as I am 25 and had a mate with me, learn from your mistakes hey? Could have been worse! As for the other bits there are about 7-10 points as we did check with his mot man but will still try vosa as noting to loose

try another forum you will get no help whatsoever on here full off
 
  Merc
10 minutes down the motorway after buying it, I would have returned to the house of the fooker and say here is your sh*t back now give me my money!
 

Alastair.

ClioSport Club Member
  986'S 172ph1+182FF
10 minutes down the motorway after buying it, I would have returned to the house of the fooker and say here is your sh*t back now give me my money!


i would have told him to do one, since when has there been warranty as standard on a private sale you muppet.
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
10 minutes down the motorway after buying it, I would have returned to the house of the fooker and say here is your sh*t back now give me my money!

I don't think people are listening.

PRIVATE SALE!!! From the moment you pay the money, thats it. Its your problem.
 

R-Sport.

ClioSport Club Member
  Mint 1*2's for sale-
THe bonnet release is a common fault- its just really bad luck that the bonnet catch gave way- he couldnt really be blamed for that- however there was a recall ( bit late now)

as for the rest- got to agree with daniel- if your dads a mechanic & couldnt be arsed to come with you to check over something your spending a lot of money on then really thats pi$$ poor & thats what youve ended up with as a result-
S
 

Struggler

ClioSport Club Member
  Ph1 track 172
2inches of movement in the rear wheels and you didnt notice when looking over the car?! I bought a car that turned out to be a heap once, the only person you can be angry at for that is yourself.

as for (almost completely unrelated) bonnet catch, im sorry to hear that, and hope it all gets sorted out.

as for the people saying "you wont get any help here" you're a fool, just because people on here tell it as it is, even though its not what you want to hear.

you've got zero comback against the seller.
you might get the MOT's licence taken away,
but unless you can directly link the bonnet opening to something faulty that should have been detected in the MOT, you wont get any comeback.
 
If you've bought the car privately there is FCUK ALL you can do. Not a single thing. So don't waste your time/money chasing the bloke.

If you bought it from a trader (either off a forecourt or from his driveway) then you will have more than enough of a case to take the heap back and get your money back.

Listen to this man.

try another forum you will get no help whatsoever on here full off

Don't listen to this clown. Pretty much the best advice I can offer you.
 
  172
The bonnet release is a common fault- its just really bad luck that the bonnet catch gave way- however there was a recall ( bit late now)

I had my bonnet catch replaced last month under warranty from renault. I'm the second owner of an 05 plate Clio and they didn't put up any fuss at all, I did have the recall letter with me though as the previous owner was kind enough to post it onto me just after I bought the car.
 
  RS 182 CUP
if youve got receipts saying work has been carried out on the car but actually hasnt you will be able to get the company that supposedly done the work to repair at no cost to you. but must have receipts!
 
  Merc
i would have told him to do one, since when has there been warranty as standard on a private sale you muppet.

Who mentioned warranty muppet? Maybe had he confronted the guy he could have gained something, possibly would have come out with nothing but he wouldn't have lost anything either.
 

Gaz_

ClioSport Club Member
  Extreme mode
put money on you opening the bonnet to look at said car during sale?

Its not a dodgy bonnet catch, but a sticky safety catch, so the bonnet want shut properly in the first place.... ooops
 
  Mountune Tractor
If you've bought the car privately there is FCUK ALL you can do. Not a single thing. So don't waste your time/money chasing the bloke.

If you bought it from a trader (either off a forecourt or from his driveway) then you will have more than enough of a case to take the heap back and get your money back.

I have to ask though, if your Dad is a mechanic why on earth did he let you go and look at a car without him??

This is exactly the reason why I never have and never will buy a car privately. Sorry to hear your story though OP and good luck getting it sorted.
 
  Phase 2 172 Sport
This is a really random question but is this car a Silver 172 by any chance !? If it is the 1 i think it might be then i was going to look at this very same car last week but a few things didnt tie up. The REG came back as a Megane, it also came back as a CAT C i think write off. I then questioned the lad who said he didnt know until he checked his log book and then realised.

Also if it is the same car then the bonnet wasn't shut properly or working properly as there was some kinda bodge involving a cable tie as this is 1 thing the lad did manage to tell me !!

Sorry to be negative !!!
 

Daniel

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
hey people, not the best first post but last nite i went to pick up my first clio 172 been saving for a while. it is a blue 172 from stafford fp02 ufg fell in love with the car then 10 mins down the motorway the bonnet flys open and smashes the window and roof in very badly!! gutted isn't even close to how i felt! but to cut the story short the car had a "small" front end crash which has been repaired. got the car home and my dad who is a mechanic has had the car on the lift and there's a few things it should not have passed the mot on like the rear wheel has got about 2inches of play in where either the wheel hub hasnt been done up or bearings shot and the car was only mot'd 2 days ago!! have phoned the garage where the mot was done and just waiting to speak to the tester tommorow and thinking report them to vosa or some kind of compensation. anyone know this car as it does have cliosport.net stickers? what would you do?

This is a really random question but is this car a Silver 172 by any chance !? If it is the 1 i think it might be then i was going to look at this very same car last week but a few things didnt tie up. The REG came back as a Megane, it also came back as a CAT C i think write off. I then questioned the lad who said he didnt know until he checked his log book and then realised.

Also if it is the same car then the bonnet wasn't shut properly or working properly as there was some kinda bodge involving a cable tie as this is 1 thing the lad did manage to tell me !!

Sorry to be negative !!!

The plot thickens

Dan

No it doesn't.
 
  williams and trophy
He has better things to do than help his son?? Cool Dad...

I personally think you will get absolutely nowhere with VOSA. An MOT test is a test to prove the car is to a standard at that moment in time. The only exception (iirc) is rust. Theres a 3 month window with rust.

And if you never paid for the MOT at the MOT station (I'm assuming the seller got it MOT'd for you?) you never had a contract with the MOT station and you are a third party.

I don't mean to sound rude or piss on your fire, but i'm just telling you how I see it.

exactly how it is. an mot means its fit for purpose at that exact time. anything could have been changed in the 2 days since the mot. the station will argue the point. you havent a leg to stand on there im afraid.
 
  172
put money on you opening the bonnet to look at said car during sale?

Its not a dodgy bonnet catch, but a sticky safety catch, so the bonnet want shut properly in the first place.... ooops

yeah mate he opened it while we were there, after the bonnet had flew up got out and that catch is sticky and hadn't closed back up! it's not the end of the world all can be repaired as for all the talk about the mot the main reason im chasing this up a bit is we think the tester is the kids brother... so want to check, if itsn't then i don't mind repairing just not ideal. already oredering a bonnet only 70 new and roof will be easy enough then 100 for a screen but as its going to be tracked i am going for bonnet pins aswell just for peace of mind! lol was pretty scary at 80 on a busy motorway!! and as for the wheel god knows how it drove fine but it did not even a vibration so in a way lucky this happened or else it wouldn't have gone on the lift and things could have been a lot worse!
 
Even if he is his brother, you have to PROVE that it was faulty at the time of the test. PROVE. What's to say it didn't pass with fully working parts and then he took them off and put broken ones on afterwards?
 
  Clio 182 FF cup'd
He may have to PROVE the MOT was a bodge job, even if he has no evidence of that it's still worth complaining to VOSA! The garage might be renowned for dodgy MOT's and have numerous complaints.. If anything it will be one step closer to having the garages licence removed.. Good luck mate, hope you got the car really cheap to help pay for the repairs :(
 


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