Master Cylinder Options

[ashy_gtt]

Hi guys I'm wanting to upgrade my master cylinder and wondering what my options are...

Its not straight forward, the car is a Renault 5 GT Turbo, however it is running a Clio Cup Servo Unit. So I was looking at buying a 172 cup Master Cylinder as this is bigger than the GT one 22mm v's 19mm... But I was thinking that if I'm at it I might aswell go as big as possible... I was reading THIS thread and noticed you can use a 197/200 master cylinder. Is there such a thing as a 197/200 cup whch doesnt have ABS? Also would a master cylinder from a car with ABS not work on a car with no ABS?

Cheers Ashy.

 

[Andrewclio]

406 coupe v6 master cylinder fits and it's 23.8 mm size I think, plus it has 4 ports for no abs

 

[ashy_gtt]

406 coupe v6 master cylinder fits and it's 23.8 mm size I think, plus it has 4 ports for no abs

Cool thanks, is that the same as was used on page 2 of THIS thread?

Only reason I ask is that the standard brake line fittings on a GTT are M10 on all 4 pots. The master cylinder on the above thread has 2 x M10 and 2 x M12 ports which I understand is the same as a 172 setup?

However, according to THIS thread, it sounds like the 197/200 Master Cylinders have the same 4xM10 ports which would save me changing the brake lines...

 

[bozothenutter]

i want to do this on my 182.....why change the breaklines?
can't you just change the fitting on the existing line?

 

[ashy_gtt]

Just becasue they are the old steel lines so would need to be changed anyway.

 

[Andrewclio]

Im sure a 172 cup or none abs has all m10 fitting. On a 406 or 806 master van the master cylinder from 99year I think that has 4 ports with all m10 fittings, i'll try and get a link to the eBay one I bought

 

[Andrewclio]

This is the one I'm going to fit
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-4...CarParts_SM&hash=item3cc2f3244d#ht_1887wt_689
I'm going to be fitting this one when I get my ap brake kit next month

 

[Andrewclio]

Just Read that thread, I'm sure mine is all m10, will have to check and let you no

 

[Andrewclio]

The 197/200 m.c has only 2ports as they all come with abs, I think you can put a t piece in but I wouldn't tbh, if it is m12 then it is easy enough to make some new lines and fittings for m12

 

[ashy_gtt]

The 197/200 m.c has only 2ports as they all come with abs, I think you can put a t piece in but I wouldn't tbh, if it is m12 then it is easy enough to make some new lines and fittings for m12

Are you sure? Can you confirm? Reason I ask is I've ordered one from Reno and its non-returnable... If it doesnt do the job I'll be stuck with a £100.00 paper weight

 

[Andrewclio]

It defo has 2 ports, I pm'd the guy in the previous thread ages ago to check before I did it and he told me it has 2 ports

 

[ashy_gtt]

Just incase anyone is ever doing something similar in the future I have now spent a small fortune on Master Cylinders from Reno to save you the cost in the future....

So heres the info:

I bought a 197 Master Cyinder - Its actually 4 Ports, so would be a direct fit but the position of the ports are different to the R5 / 172 MS although they are all M10x1.0.

Part number 7701208880 - Lis Price £77.62

Photos:

I also bought a 172 Cup Master Cyinder.

Part number 7701205739 - Lis Price £88.29

Photos:

Now two of the ports are M10x1.0 the same as the R5 but two are M12x1.0. So Insead of changing the brake line fittings I made some brass adaptors to allow fitment of the standard brake pipes..

So I think I'll just go with the 172 cup MS and see how that performs!

 

[bozothenutter]

so neither can be used on a 182?

 

[exploding_penguin]

is the 406 cylinder all m10 then?

 

[bozothenutter]

how many ports does a 182 MC have?

 

[len_beach]

Just incase anyone is ever doing something similar in the future I have now spent a small fortune on Master Cylinders from Reno to save you the cost in the future....

So heres the info:

I bought a 197 Master Cyinder - Its actually 4 Ports, so would be a direct fit but the position of the ports are different to the R5 / 172 MS although they are all M10x1.0.

Part number 7701208880 - Lis Price £77.62

Photos:

I also bought a 172 Cup Master Cyinder.

Part number 7701205739 - Lis Price £88.29

Photos:

Now two of the ports are M10x1.0 the same as the R5 but two are M12x1.0. So Insead of changing the brake line fittings I made some brass adaptors to allow fitment of the standard brake pipes..

So I think I'll just go with the 172 cup MS and see how that performs!

So you kept the original brake lines in the end?

I want to remove the abs from my 172 so need to find out what fittings the abs pump uses.

Could you knock up a few more of the brass fittings Ashy?

 

[skydiver]

how many ports does a 182 MC have?

Two.