Anyone r using ADVAN A052?

joe hk&uk · Dec 28, 2020

Hi folks, thinking of having new tyres as my set of R1R is about time for retirement.
Would like to hear some feedback of A052 on a clio....anyone?

Cheers

robzracing · Dec 28, 2020

Yep. Nothing better on the market currently in my opinion

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robzracing · Dec 28, 2020

To expand a little. I've been using them since they became available in 15" sizes. They were available in larger sizes for a couple of years before hand and one of my competitors ran 1 set on 16" rims for the entire season, wet and dry. And won the championship.

Djw John · Dec 28, 2020

@Djw Dave and @Donz144 both run them in Superlap Scotland to very good effect

joe hk&uk · Dec 28, 2020

Thx for the input mate! but How about on the wet? For R1R...they r better than ad08r I wonder 052's r even better? I had several semi slick before the R1R r seems the best on the wet

robzracing · Dec 28, 2020

joe hk&uk said:
Thx for the input mate! but How about on the wet? For R1R...they r better than ad08r I wonder 052's r even better? I had several semi slick before the R1R r seems the best on the wet

I also have a set of R1Rs for wets but I'm about to sell them on because they're only really good in absolutely torrential rain and anything else the AO52s are better. Last outing at Castle Combe we were running rings around most of the 40 car grid, qualifying 3rd until the gearbox failed.

robzracing · Dec 28, 2020

robzracing · Dec 28, 2020

At Combe

joe hk&uk · Dec 28, 2020

robzracing said:
I also have a set of R1Rs for wets but I'm about to sell them on because they're only really good in absolutely torrential rain and anything else the AO52s are better. Last outing at Castle Combe we were running rings around most of the 40 car grid, qualifying 3rd until the gearbox failed.

Would you point me out where is the best place to order a set? The best price I found for 195/50/15 was around £130 each

joe hk&uk · Dec 28, 2020

robzracing said:
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050 r road legal in uk ?

robzracing · Dec 28, 2020

joe hk&uk said:
Would you point me out where is the best place to order a set? The best price I found for 195/50/15 was around £130 each

We use Adams and Page https://adamsandpage.co.uk/ As they sponsor the CSCC who we race with so we get a bit of a discount. £130 sounds about right and if you offset that cost against not needing a set of wets they're good value!

robzracing · Dec 28, 2020

joe hk&uk said:
050 r road legal in uk ?

AO50s aren't road legal. AO52s are.

joe hk&uk · Dec 28, 2020

Just wondering What's the size for the 052 you used mate? S I know they do hv 195 or either 205/50...am not sure which 1 is better

Eddie555 · Dec 28, 2020

I've used A052's on 2 occasions recently at Cadwell and Donington. Both times it was wet going to dry, no real standing water and i found them to be shockingly good. Mine are 195/50 x 15

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joe hk&uk · Dec 28, 2020

Eddie555 said:
I've used A052's on 2 occasions recently at Cadwell and Donington. Both times it was wet going to dry, no real standing water and i found them to be shockingly good. Mine are 195/50 x 15

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View attachment 1512769thx for the replied mate! Any close up pictures of your wheels with 052 on?

joe hk&uk · Dec 28, 2020

Thx for the replied buddy nice picture btw!!
Any close up pictures of ur wheels with 052 on?

-Jamie- · Dec 29, 2020

A052s are seriously good tyres in pretty much all conditions. Even on the rosd in thr cold and wet they still manage to grip up well enough to not want to kill you.

Just as fast, if not faster than the benchmark 03Gs in the dry but far better in every other condition

Just don't last long, I got under 2.5k out a set of rears Inc 3 track sessions at KH and 4k out the front with the same track use.

robzracing · Dec 29, 2020

joe hk&uk said:
Just wondering What's the size for the 052 you used mate? S I know they do hv 195 or either 205/50...am not sure which 1 is better

I use 195s at the moment which have been fine. Some use 205s though.

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Jamie86 · Dec 29, 2020

robzracing said:
I use 195s at the moment which have been fine. Some use 205s though.

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Have you done back to back testing against AO50?

Deciding if to bite the bullet next season and move from 195 AO50’s to 205 AO52’s..

robzracing · Dec 29, 2020

Jamie86 said:
Have you done back to back testing against AO50?

Deciding if to bite the bullet next season and move from 195 AO50’s to 205 AO52’s..

Not exactly. On our pre season test day this year I had intended to do just that. We ran AO50s in the morning and the plan was to switch over after lunch. Unfortunately the engine broke a rocker just before lunch so that was our day over.
Hopefully we'll do the same in March.
I've been tempted to move to 205s but the car will be significantly lighter again by March and I'm not sure we'll need the extra traction.

Jamie86 · Dec 29, 2020

I know Mr Hunter went significantly quicker went testing the DZ03G 195 v 205

Its difficult as I haven’t found anyone who has tested against each other yet.
Tempting to get some AO52 and worst case they can be wets if no quicker!

JB21 · Dec 29, 2020

AO52 sounds like a good option as I find most UK track days up north are damp, and my current AR1's are hopeless in these conditions as are my Rainsport 5's.

These sound like a great in-between option.

£668 a set for mine, 225/50/15 rear - 205/50/15 front versus £492 for AR1's in the same sizes.

joe hk&uk · Dec 29, 2020

robzracing said:
I use 195s at the moment which have been fine. Some use 205s though.

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Thx rob, any pictures of ur wheels with 052 that i can hv a look? Really appreciate it !

robzracing · Dec 29, 2020

Eddie555 · Dec 29, 2020

joe hk&uk said:
Thx for the replied buddy nice picture btw!!
Any close up pictures of ur wheels with 052 on?

The cars in storage till 11th jan so cant help you there..

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EVO 4LEX · Dec 29, 2020

robzracing said:
Not exactly. On our pre season test day this year I had intended to do just that. We ran AO50s in the morning and the plan was to switch over after lunch. Unfortunately the engine broke a rocker just before lunch so that was our day over.
Hopefully we'll do the same in March.
I've been tempted to move to 205s but the car will be significantly lighter again by March and I'm not sure we'll need the extra traction.

I hope weight loss updates will be in your build thread?

robzracing · Dec 29, 2020

EVO 4LEX said:
I hope weight loss updates will be in your build thread?

Oh it will be don’t worry!
Lots of fibreglass and some carbon fibre.

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Jeremy96 · 2024-07-26T14:40:22+0100

robzracing said:
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Hi Rob, is this 195 on a 7j wheel?

Advikaz · 2024-07-26T14:44:58+0100

How do these compare to AR1's guys?

JamesBryan · 2024-07-26T14:48:33+0100

Advikaz said:
How do these compare to AR1's guys?

Never tried them, but everyone says they're a different league.

The new Nankang CR-S is closer to A052.

Mr Underhill · 2024-07-26T15:08:05+0100

A052 is the best tyre I've used in the Yokohama range. as James says, a different level.

A050s are marginally better as they have a reinforced carcass and are ideal for out-and-out dry weather.
52s can handle damp and dry situations, making it less risky to rock up to a track day without the need to bring extra tyres.

I was at TDT when Colin Tester was racing with them, having previously run 50s, and he was a second a lap faster.

It's the only tyre I'll use, but I also have some MRFs here which I'm going to try at Croft next week. I doubt they'll be anywhere near as good, but well soon find out.

Advikaz · 2024-07-26T15:13:36+0100

Mr Underhill said:
A052 is the best tyre I've used in the Yokohama range. as James says, a different level.

A050s are marginally better as they have a reinforced carcass and are ideal for out-and-out dry weather.
52s can handle damp and dry situations, making it less risky to rock up to a track day without the need to bring extra tyres.

I was at TDT when Colin Tester was racing with them, having previously run 50s, and he was a second a lap faster.

It's the only tyre I'll use, but I also have some MRFs here which I'm going to try at Croft next week. I doubt they'll be anywhere near as good, but well soon find out.

Small world, i know Colin.

Thanks for the info

RSRowe · 2024-07-26T15:36:00+0100

52’s are next level, but burn through quickly in the dry.
They’re mega in the wet too.

Mr Underhill · 2024-07-26T15:43:01+0100

RSRowe said:
52’s are next level, but burn through quickly in the dry.
They’re mega in the wet too.

I've done 4 track days on mine now and they hardly look used. All dry days, bar the last one which had standing water at times.

I'd be lucky to get 3 on my other Clio track car, so I've probably got the new car set up bang on. I reckon I'll get a full season out of them at this rate 🤞

Mr Underhill · 2024-07-26T15:44:46+0100

Advikaz said:
Small world, i know Colin.

Thanks for the info

Perfect, he'll give you the proper data on them then. I got mine from Darkside and have pre-ordered a few more.

RSRowe · 2024-07-26T16:07:52+0100

Mr Underhill said:
I've done 4 track days on mine now and they hardly look used. All dry days, bar the last one which had standing water at times.

I'd be lucky to get 3 on my other Clio track car, so I've probably got the new car set up bang on. I reckon I'll get a full season out of them at this rate 🤞

I’m not running enough camber really. But I do drive like an absolute melt, which also doesn’t help.

I got a half dry half wet day of Donington, a dry Cadwell, and a half dry, half wet day at the ring. They were essentially dead afterwards

-Jamie- · 2024-07-26T16:15:50+0100

RSRowe said:
I’m not running enough camber really. But I do drive like an absolute melt, which also doesn’t help.

I got a half dry half wet day of Donington, a dry Cadwell, and a half dry, half wet day at the ring. They were essentially dead afterwards

Heavier cars absolutely toast them to be fair. I did a new pair of rears in one Nc500 trip in the E92 😂

Mr Underhill · 2024-07-26T16:18:57+0100

RSRowe said:
I’m not running enough camber really. But I do drive like an absolute melt, which also doesn’t help.

I got a half dry half wet day of Donington, a dry Cadwell, and a half dry, half wet day at the ring. They were essentially dead afterwards

It'll be different on a Meg but when I was running -3.4 degrees camber on the 182 with 3mm toe out each side, and 30 psi front and 32 psi rear, I got half a track day.

I was advised by Darkside and Yokohama to run higher tyre pressures and less camber. So I'm now running - 2.5 degrees, 35 psi hot front and rear and 2mm toe out each side. Perfect temperatures across the tyre and as I said, they've lasted 4 days so far.

They're not a reinforced carcass, so will delaminate in front of your eyes unless the car is set up properly.

-Jamie- · 2024-07-26T16:49:27+0100

Mr Underhill said:
It'll be different on a Meg but when I was running -3.4 degrees camber on the 182 with 3mm toe out each side, and 30 psi front and 32 psi rear, I got half a track day.

I was advised by Darkside and Yokohama to run higher tyre pressures and less camber. So I'm now running - 2.5 degrees, 35 psi hot front and rear and 2mm toe out each side. Perfect temperatures across the tyre and as I said, they've lasted 4 days so far.

They're not a reinforced carcass, so will delaminate in front of your eyes unless the car is set up properly.

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Weird how different chassis need different setups to get the most out of them

Mates Ring spec M4 runs then but needs over - 4 camber, runs them at 30psi hot and they last a gold while and don't destroy the outer edges

Mr Underhill · 2024-07-26T17:06:10+0100

-Jamie- said:
Weird how different chassis need different setups to get the most out of them

Mates Ring spec M4 runs then but needs over - 4 camber, runs them at 30psi hot and they last a gold while and don't destroy the outer edges

Yeah. I sent Yokohama my settings, and a picture of the tyre and they fired back with what they recommended. The car is spot on now.

That tear in the tyre was from locking up at the bottom of Mansfield at Cadwell. Code brown moment because I was completely oblivious to the fact they were done after 3 hours. Brand spanking new as well. Te car did have an aggressive setup though and I was driving like a madman lol.

Anyone r using ADVAN A052?

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