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You sound just like your mam

In comparison to a RR, it's not. As said. And misread by the Scottish. Evidently.

Thing is they sound immense. They look OK. They aren't great to drive. Not bad, by any means. But a golf r has it covered everywhere bar straight lines. It's neither here nor there for me. It's not a great drivers car, and in comparison to a RR it's not a great daily.

This. And some cars catch me by surprise by being way off expectations. Went to Ford with money waiting to buy a fiesta St. Massively underwhelmed so bought an R26 instead. Test drove a mk5 gti out of boredom, ended up ordering one on the spot.

Do other people's opinions on a car influence people much? Genuine question. Magazine reviews, ytube etc give me an idea of what I want to try, and generally seem pretty accurate. But not sure the opinion of random folks has any influence (personally).

Not at all. Renault sport have been the darling of the motoring media for over a decade, and obviously on here you'd expect there to be many rs fans. It missed the target for a lot of folks. It didn't for you, which is great. Doesn't render others opinions void. Plenty have driven it and not...

Fair enough. In that case, I've no idea why anyone would pick one over a golf gti! Most people finance new purchases via lease/pcp. Similar money (think the golf is often cheaper). Or a Cooper S. The 200t fulfils a brief that most UK buyers don't need. And for those that do, other...

They aren't a high end brand imo. More 3 series knocking about than new mondeos.

Evoque is a really nice place to be. 3 doors are horrid, proper sluts car. You'd suit the convertible.

I'd take the RRS over an rs3.

Mine do. Change it when it breaks.

TV lasts a lot longer than a phone!

Wife has one, brilliant things. If the apps I use most weren't so much better on android, I'd have an SE.

Find a member locally with a 197. Ask them to take you out in theirs. I suspect you'll find no difference.

The book 0-60 requires zero mechanical sympathy. No idea why anyone would bother with their own car! The 197 isn't that quick, light on torque etc. Compare it to another 197, that's the only way to know for sure if it's actually slow.

Didnt know that! Is there any way of checking if a car has one fitted (other than jacking it up!)

I'd like to do a track day, but zero interest in tf days.

Do they have projectors?

There was a recent article on pistonheads. Typically passat with a decent motor. So pretty dull.

Ruh roh

And the rules for cameras are different in Wales iirc. They can hide them as much as possible, no rules on ensuring they're visible etc.

Great stuff. Dread to think how many times I've changed cars since you got this.

Good voice control, is much better than a touch screen. Touch screens are great when you're at a standstill, but bloody awful when you're on the move.

Nothing offers the economy of the Fiesta. It's outstanding given the performance.

I spoke to one of the chaps at Evo. In his words, it's still nowhere near good enough (he was actually less polite than that). Not driven a trophy, but I don't see how it'll be the car it should. The 200 lacks that sense of urgency that all the best RS cars have. Feels closer in character to...

I don't like them. Can't see why anyone would pick one over a megane 250/275. That's a genuine rs product, the clio feels like a GT version. Box is the worst dual clutch I've tried, the ten yr old golf gti box is light years ahead. If you like the old rs products, the Meg is the one to go with.

Price seems reasonable to me. Love that it looks standard.

Tomtom or sygic. I travel a fair amount on busy routes, and have found that the Tomtom traffic info to be far better than the Google/Waze info. Sygic does have the same info, but the route planning of the Tomtom app is better. Shame, as I've got android auto and Google maps would be much...

That's a shame. Mine was hilarious, coilovers, chassis braces, modified rack with power steering delete, modified gear linkage, Elise drivers seat etc etc.