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The reason the seats are kgs lighter in the 172 Cup is due to not having side airbags or lumbar support. The difference due to leather versus cloth seat covers is measured in grams.

Close...the 172 Cup was 1,021kg...89kg lighter than the 172. I thought he Trophy was 1,065kg but I'm not sure on that one.

Just wow. What an incredible driver.

LOL, nice work. Usual scepticism is usual. If you're happy with how it drives, then, oddly enough, you're happy. Ignore the sceptics. You have video of your on-track antics anywhere?

Correct! Take it off if you want your lovely polished and waxed paintwork to permanently have really visible fingerprints all down the side of the door. This is also exactly why they fit an internal recess for pulling the boot closed. Same as the b-pillar trims...to protect the paintwork/keep...

Black 200s are the best. FACT. Steering wheel accessory?

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Not overly so I don't think...in a way i think I'm simply trying to temper my own enthusiasm for it by trying to counter a perfectly reasonable position. I know full well you'd come back with something which makes me want to dig deeper. I...

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 It certainly looks that way. Sales figures will tell if people are as concerned/offended/repulsed as you seem to be over a car you have no intention whatsoever of buying. I must be blind as I think it works quite well LOL

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Maybe the standard single pots are not up to the job then. Brembos might be an option in the future?

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 http://youtu.be/i97cpCBe67o Has English subtitles. Looks like the normal Clio handling traits are all present and correct. No mention of the brakes which might suggest they're up to the job.

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Your 20 year old Williams would likely crumble to dust in an impact that would leave the passenger compartment of the newer Clio intact and probably still with functioning doors. Any other ludicrous comparisons to make?????

Read this thread from start to end. What you're looking to change above will address 10% of your problem. Reading this thread and opening your mind to learning and improving will address the other 90%.

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 That is pretty much the ONLY even slightly negative comment amongst several hundred words, and you say enough said without ever having seen one let alone driven one. FLOL...you are a lost cause, go and buy a Fiesta, I'm sure you'll be...

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Got followed a few miles down a B road by one of them today, bizarre looking little thing, the Aston grille looks so odd on a shoe. i'm surprised at how comparable the two clios above look size wise. Considering the mk2 vs mk3 looks like...

Don't do this, your new car will look HUGE and the abuse will be endless. Find a mk3, it should look a lot sleeker next to one of them!

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Interesting about hydraulic bump stops...sounds as though it'll be night/day different. Looking forward to the press reports on 14th to see if that's actually the case.

Agree with Dan. More trackdays. And tuition.

By your own admission your fluid was not up to scratch, you boiled it, meaning your pedal pressure cold not reach the pads and discs effectively. Then you blame the pads for the poor braking performance? As said already, for mostly road use DS2500 are a bit over the top. I'm running Mintex...

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Agreed...it's horrendous! Looks playful enough from those clips though, seems to move about a bit.

Was this there one where there was almost coronary failure following discovery of some slight overspray beneath the rear bench or something like that?

I'm pretty clueless when it comes to detailing and paint correction/restoration at any level, but have always thought that putting a hard edged straight line anywhere on a panel during the process (at whatever stage) would ultimately leave some form of compromise in the pursuit of perfection...

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Ah ok, is that what the question was? I did suspect that but didn't think it possible someone could have such a low IQ and still be able to use a mouse.

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 What?

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Are you for real? Comedy gold, right there ^^^

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 It's all about the arches and the clutch pedal apparently.

So they've been sent the original invoice that clearly states it's a black edition, and it was insured as a black edition, but with all that in hand they're saying 'no, it's not a black edition'? Really? Insurance ombudsman maybe?

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 More CS logic at play in here...something that is entirely 100% optional (and a gimmick at that) is a key deciding factor in determining if a car is worth considering or not. Brilliant.

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 I think it looks alright. Don't write it off yet.

...and for balance, one without...

Hmmm...does appear so which is odd...didn't think it was. Although that shows as a zero cost option...since when have Renault done anything for free? I think that should have a '1.' next to it as it's part of the cup pack.