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Agreed, there's no question at all if the sole buying criteria were looks. The op was asking if the suspension mattered to the way they drive...which it doesn't really. If it did, why do so many spec the cup pack then change the springs/dampers to get lows/stance? If the cup packs are that good...

Of course you're going to say that (like referring to my spec being poverty)...you only buy/sell cup packed, recaro specced, speedline wheel shod cars so have a vested interest in pushing what you sell. It's all opinion anyway, the op needs to try the different options and then decide for...

To give you both sides of the 'argument'...I've done over 20k road miles and 4 trackdays in my non-cupped 200 and have never ever once even slightly felt that I needed something firmer beneath me. I came from 120k miles in a 172 Cup so thought I might miss the 'sharpness'...but I truly...

LOL Proper tool indeed. I've been driving six months, so I can drive. No, you actually can't. Justification for the sky high premiums the young pay for high group cars...right here.

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 I too saw one today...took my buddy to Wilsons in Epsom to pick the replacement for his S2000 up. They had a demonstrator parked outside. I can honestly say I thought the exact opposite to you. Looks so much better in the flesh, not...

I've always liked these. Mate had one for 12 months so spent a fair amount of time passengering...only things I could ever really criticise where the moulding line on the plastic scaffold pole-like door grab handles along with a digital clock from 1982 that Toyota persevered with for decades...

True. With enough coercion she'll sit in/on anything.

My wife would happily sit in it.

I like all of that. 200 will be immense.

My AD08s in monsoon standing water/running river conditions at Llandow. They did really well until I asked for acceleration as well as cornering over a particularly deep puddle)...

Circa 15 seconds, not bad. To those that think it's quicker, don't forget that by the time the speedo needle starts moving, it's already moving down the road at 10-15mph.

Can't comment as never tried the others, but for what you get, I'd say the AD08s are worth every penny. I was only expecting 6k miles out of them so to be looking at 12k+ after two trackdays is remarkable considering the grip they give.

I've done two trackdays and over 10k road miles on mine...still a couple of thou' left to go on them easily.

There's a thread over on 197.net where the chap who had some made with R-clips was selling them - search over there for caliper pins and you'll find it.

I did this, tried tickling the stuck one out, then once it had started to bend it was properly game over. Can't remember what the replacement R-clip pins cost me, £40-£50 I think. Worth every single penny.

House?

Not on the Porsche with the R-clips? I'm due new front pads soon...I'm actually quite looking forward to getting it up with wheels off and swapping the pads over. I was absolutely dreading it last time LOL.

As above, they can be a nightmare. First time I tried to do mine, 3 came out with persuasion from a lump-hammer + punch, but the 4th was stuck fast. Ended up having to take the caliper off and get some heat onto it to get it moving. I now have the pins held in with R-clips, instead of the...

Owner must be blind. There's no other logical explanation.

Looks nice. Word of warning...it should have had at least a couple of cambelt changes on that already...does the history show evidence of that?

+1

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Once someone throws some springs and spacers at one, all the doubters will be knocking one out over them. I think they'll look epic.

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 A Mk3 5-door versus a Mk4 5-door will be circa 100kg lighter. The reason the new Mk4 RS Clios is only 35 kgs or so lighter than the current RS200, is because it's going from a 3-door to a 5-door bodyshell.

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news - NEW DETAILS #1779 Look pretty good to me. I'm liking the data logging/telemetry etc.

Re: CLIO IV RS for 2013, Last news I think it looks just fine. Like any modern hatchback to be honest...but with a mild sporting edge. That'll do. I look forward to seeing one in the flesh.

I like that.

Me too. Especially one that's not been driven. What's the point of owning that?

Racing blue needs stripes.

I'll be up that way as well...don't mind an early start if it means a flat-out blast with like minded members. So what's the plan? What time do you think you'll be reaching the M25...I'll keep an eye out?

Which motorway will that be on? I fancy tagging along...let's see who's fastest.