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Not seen any cups yet but there a lot of 172 round are way and in Sheffield. Might have something to do with direct cars selling them with delivery miles for under 12K. Well 5 quid under anyway but every little helps. Only ever seen one blue 172 and that was Rhyss which looked mint. Sorry to...

Not seen any cups yet but there a lot of 172 round are way and in Sheffield. Might have something to do with direct cars selling them with delivery miles for under 12K. Well 5 quid under anyway but every little helps. Only ever seen one blue 172 and that was Rhyss which looked mint. Sorry to...

sh*t........Dropped one, the above are the results of Car magazines PCOTY not Evos. Would be interesting to see how EVO compare.

Results of PCOTY in latest Evo from top drawer!! 1st - Pagini Zonda 2nd - 575M Maranello 3rd - SL55 AMG 4th - Cooper S 5th - EVO V11 FQ 300 6th - Focus RS 7th - Impreza STI 8th Lambo Murcielago 9th - Alfa 156 GTA 10th - Audi RS6 11th - Elise 12th - Boxter 13th -...

Zonda comes first, Ferrari 575 2nd or 3rd cant remeber which, Cooper S 4th. There is talk of a meet early next year at Santa Pod I think. Good day out for all like you say. I fancy coming down for a pop. Never done quarter mileing or anything like that before so will be an experience.

PS I also have all the above mags at work for lunchtime reading too.;)

Lets end this stupid discussion shall we. We will end up going backward and forwards all day long fighting our corner for our beloved cars. I come on this forum as it is interesting and have some good discussions. I even met 2 members of this forum and went out for a blast. If thats not...

None of the one I have seen tested have been basic!!! If you look at the articles it usually says "price as tested" and the gay blue one which has been used for a lot of mag tests (Evo being one of them) gives it at about 17 grand. Really basic. BMW quote 0-60 in 6.9 and to 62 in 7.4 for...

sh*t........Dropped one, the above are the results of Car magazines PCOTY not Evos. Would be interesting to see how EVO compare.

21 grand for 212bhp and better performance than the Focus RS and similar money. Getting it more for individuality. On a day to day basis I wouldnt even use the power but it is nice to know that it is there. What else could I get for 21 grand I ask?? An Impreza STI? An Evo 6, a TVR? The list...

Results of PCOTY in latest Evo from top drawer!! 1st - Pagini Zonda 2nd - 575M Maranello 3rd - SL55 AMG 4th - Cooper S 5th - EVO V11 FQ 300 6th - Focus RS 7th - Impreza STI 8th Lambo Murcielago 9th - Alfa 156 GTA 10th - Audi RS6 11th - Elise 12th - Boxter 13th -...

Zonda comes first, Ferrari 575 2nd or 3rd cant remeber which, Cooper S 4th. There is talk of a meet early next year at Santa Pod I think. Good day out for all like you say. I fancy coming down for a pop. Never done quarter mileing or anything like that before so will be an experience.

PS I also have all the above mags at work for lunchtime reading too.;)

Lets end this stupid discussion shall we. We will end up going backward and forwards all day long fighting our corner for our beloved cars. I come on this forum as it is interesting and have some good discussions. I even met 2 members of this forum and went out for a blast. If thats not...

I think that the vast majority of mini drivers would not even contemplate a 172 because performance isnt their bag baby. After all it is for hairdressers isnt it? That doesnt apply to myself though as I did consider a 172 and like it a lot but instead opted for a 19 grand mini, soon to be a 21...

None of the one I have seen tested have been basic!!! If you look at the articles it usually says "price as tested" and the gay blue one which has been used for a lot of mag tests (Evo being one of them) gives it at about 17 grand. Really basic. BMW quote 0-60 in 6.9 and to 62 in 7.4 for...

21 grand for 212bhp and better performance than the Focus RS and similar money. Getting it more for individuality. On a day to day basis I wouldnt even use the power but it is nice to know that it is there. What else could I get for 21 grand I ask?? An Impreza STI? An Evo 6, a TVR? The list...

Good idea Daipac.......make a grand profit instantly;)

I was comparing the article about the standard 172 vs MCS not against the Cup. MINI comes with phuck all toys as standard, you have to add them on as extras. I think the MINI is a bit of a look at me fashion statement and I will agree that a lot of people who drive them are 30 something women...

I think that the vast majority of mini drivers would not even contemplate a 172 because performance isnt their bag baby. After all it is for hairdressers isnt it? That doesnt apply to myself though as I did consider a 172 and like it a lot but instead opted for a 19 grand mini, soon to be a 21...

Good idea Daipac.......make a grand profit instantly;)

I was comparing the article about the standard 172 vs MCS not against the Cup. MINI comes with phuck all toys as standard, you have to add them on as extras. I think the MINI is a bit of a look at me fashion statement and I will agree that a lot of people who drive them are 30 something women...

172 has been compared with the S several times in the past in other magazines. Best one was EVOs around June?? Both cars got excellent reviews overall and I think the Cooper S just edged it at the verdict.

172 has been compared with the S several times in the past in other magazines. Best one was EVOs around June?? Both cars got excellent reviews overall and I think the Cooper S just edged it at the verdict.

Same over here unfortunatley mate. Mine set me back 19 grand after extras were added from the base price of 14.5K. 17" wheels and full leather are nice though. Climate control is good too but like you say for the flagship model you would expect to get a cd player, air con, and xenons but I...

Same over here unfortunatley mate. Mine set me back 19 grand after extras were added from the base price of 14.5K. 17" wheels and full leather are nice though. Climate control is good too but like you say for the flagship model you would expect to get a cd player, air con, and xenons but I...

Had made my mind up about the Works coversion and getting it fitted early next year for £3500 but since then Birds who are a reputable BMW and Mercedes tuner are offering a kit by Hartge which ups power to 212bhp for £1500. Only problem is my 3 year BMW warrenty goes down the pan with the...

Had made my mind up about the Works coversion and getting it fitted early next year for £3500 but since then Birds who are a reputable BMW and Mercedes tuner are offering a kit by Hartge which ups power to 212bhp for £1500. Only problem is my 3 year BMW warrenty goes down the pan with the...

I had a Cooper for 6 months before I took delivery of the Cooper S and of the line I would class it as nippy. Used to comfotbaly beat VTRs and stuff like that but once you got it the twisties where it belongs it kept up with cars with twice the power quite easily. Excellent fun on the right...