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depends whether the games tend to use analogue and buttons, or two analogues etc. The argument for the 360 controller is that games use the left analogue and the right buttons, so they are positioned in the same places on either side of the controller. but then some games will use both...

Right, so they haven't changed the design for years, hmmm, I wonder why that is, maybe the majority of people don't actually have a problem with it? its symmetrical, some people prefer to be normal. Guess it also depends what type of games you prefer. For me I can pick up either controller...

The ps4 controller looks to be heavier and bigger than the ps3, two things people complained about, so that should make people happy.

yeah, because you've used both of the new controllers right?

I thought it came from a company providing advertising banners to walmart, so was fairly reliable?

you are already running SSD's though, fusion IO is designed to speed up servers using spinning disks or SANs. I personally can't see how it would benefit you. If that server is not performing with an app, id say its the app thats the problem, thats a pretty monstrous server for a single app to...

I managed to get a day one from game, but my ps4 is a phase 2 as they stopped guaranteeing a few days before, but I might still get it on launch day apparently. im still torn over what games to buy for what system. There's a lot of confusion as to when the games are launched for the Xbox, some...

game discs, downloads will be rrp i believe.

Game are fine now, and certainly will be around until after christmas, thats for sure, the majority of their money will come from the next 4 months, especially with the launch of 2 of the biggest products of this decade. Especially as they can sell everything at near enough RRP and get away...

I bet rock star are hating all this free hype and publicity too.

only the peasants.

hmm, thats a uk copy, i would think it'd be america where this sort of thing gets leaked online. I'm sure it will appear online at some point before launch, but id say its a bit early yet.

what does that prove, other than someone has printed off a label and put it on a disc, doesn't show whats on the disc, and until a video is shown of someone putting it in their system at home and playing it, I'm calling bulls**t

I don't think there'll be a price drop for a while, especially on the ps4 as its already very competitive. Xbox maybe, as instead of a price drop against the ps4 they've included a free game, but as yet that's only in Europe.

FFS, you really aren't getting it are you? the ONLY reason it's that price is because FIFA is now free, before it was announced as free, this bundle didn't exist, they've just added FIFA to all the existing bundles they were selling since it was announced. It's only free with the special...

lol, no it doesn't, the bundle we are talking about is a pre-order bundle, its an online shop, shopto, at no point is anything else relevant. We are discussing the price of a pre-order bundle, after the launch all bundles and pricing will change. For starters, if FIFA is no longer included...

yes thats right, but thats what we are talking about here, a pre-order for a launch console, so any other conversation wouldn't be relevant would it? ​if it wasn't free then the bundle would be £40-50 more expensive........

correct, FIFA is free as a download in europe, theres a code in the box

amazon, game, shopto..... you don't need to go to a store to get it delivered free to your home on release day, and the day before in most cases.

release date, its a pre-load