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I'm guessing it depends on whether you can get hold of one on launch day, no reason why everywhere might be out of stock unless you've preordered?

Is it permanent offer or just temporary? I presumed it was a temp, "day one" edition.

I thought the console was £429 + FIFA - £40 + battlefield - £40 + Live Points - £15 Total = £524 Or am I mistaken???

Whoop whoop!

No but I expect most people who frequent a car forum and console thread to enjoy playing racing games. The fact that its unlikely that anything good will be released on the PS4 must surely sway most in the direction of the XBOX?

Last time I checked this was a next gen console thread??? I doubt Sony will offer anything on par with Forza, the PS3 certainly didn't.

LOL. Arsenal have more chance of winning the league tbh.

Why anyone off a car forum would buy a PS4 when Forza won't be a available for it amazes me.

Jesus! I reckon the only thing to survive a nuclear fallout (other than cockroach's) would be your phone.

The drive in my mums Honda Jizz looks & sounds more entertaining tbh.

So many bargains to be had. I can only presume not everyone knows about the refurb store.

Go for a refurb and save yourself some $.

FLOL.

How much is the service?

Perfect, get it bought mate!

What does it matter... Does it make his opinion any less valid or are you gay?

Go for it mate, it's the best TV out there (in its price range). Just look out for any issues discussed in the owners thread, only you can decide if they're deal breakers :)

I've got the VT50, brilliant TV. You'll learn more on AVForums than you will here so check out the owner threads over there. Best TV in its class.

Same happens on the iPhone. Nothing you can do except stick it in a case (be careful though as some cases trap dirt and worsen the problem).

Not really. You did see the pictures I posted on the previous page? At the end of the day these TVs are not cheap.

Brilliant TV, one of the best on the market. No doubt like all the previous generations it will have faults, I suggest you read up on avforums to see how minor these faults are.

I used to get the same (couple of times a day). I decided to remove the sim, give it a good clean and not had the problem since (good few days now). Give it a try.

Here's a couple of pics mate, basically on any gray/white screen the TV produces a green blotchy haze. This is a problem on all 2011 Panny plasma tv's, I'm yet to see one which didn't have the problem. Panasonic released a patch which did absolutely f**k all lol.

I had two of those, both suffered from green blob!

No the ST is a fantastic TV, just not as good as GT. I've got a VT50 btw. All three will be in short supply as the 50 series was last years model.

Right, I'm about to order one of these bad boys. Keep hearing about a silent haswell CPU update either this month or next... Is this a reason to hold out or should I tell Ming-Chi Kuo to stick his rumour up his arse...

I find the sticks (left one in particular) too low down the pad (hardly use the right stick). Reviews look positive but it doesn't sound as though many have actually managed to get their mitts on one. And no I'm not inbred but I did fcuk your mum ;)

Or the fact the thumb sticks are in the wrong place?

Ergonomically it looks the same as the PS3. I'm happy to be proven wrong though.

I'm going to give the Xbox One a go. Ultimately the games will do the talking. The PS4 controller is terrible.