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Perhaps just a little bit ;)

Warren seriously, I'm not trying to argue with you heh - the guy asked for peoples personal opinions - entering a debate with everyone on CS who dares suggest the Trophy isn't the only buying option if you can afford it will have you very, very busy :) When I suggested the 197 got less than...

If you just base hot hatches on those things though - surely a 172 Cup is better than a Trophy? I also wanted a comfy car anyway, and one that IMHO looked awesome, and I personally am willing to sacrifice that last 1% of performance for a nicer place to sit. That's just me, and I can...

I've just done this. Chose the R27 as, IMHO, it looks the best (I think the Trophy looks dated because the new shape is out, and that's only gonna wreck the values I think - this is just my opinion) and it was the nicest to drive. Couldn't live with the looks of the R26, again personal...

I was in this situation, and I bought an R27 (well my budget was a little bit higher). So I'd say 197 - I preferred it the CTR as it feels faster, it handles a lot better IMHO, and it looks better, and is much nicer inside. I wasn't particulary interested in anything like Audi S3s, as I...

The CTR is almost as dirty. TBH I know on paper the VXR has loads more torque, but in the real world, in gear, as long as the 197 is over about 2.5/3k rpm there isn't a great deal in it - we've both driven each others and both agree. It's down to the racey short gearing of the 197. Thanks...

"bit of a play" and 40mpg doesn't stack up :) Gentle pootle around would be more like it ;) You know that pedal on the right? That goes all the way to the carpet ;)

Bingo. I'd be tempted frankly to not buy one from someone that says "It's never been driven hard" - because they're lying to your face. No one, in the world, buys a hot hatch, an drives like Miss Daisy. And if it has done 70k miles at sub 3krpm, it'll drive like s**t because the engine will...

I hate how some people immiediately post things like "Shame it'll be your fault on the insurance as well" - obviously just trying to put the boot in to make you feel worse. I just don't get the mentality of that at all. Why deliberately try and kick people when they're down? Good luck with...

£175? Nice heh! Still, I guess it will work with my steering column controls etc.

This thread makes me cry :(

Red are the least dusty ones - and are for harder use than Green - but work just as well from cold. Green are VERY dusty IME.

Is this a dealer fit thing? Will they have a clue what I'm talking about if I go in and ask for it? How much coins am I looking at? Just to clarify for me - it gives me an Aux in point basically in my glovebox - which I can plug an iPod into and I'll be able to control the iPod with my...

And the wheels, and the seats :) The pwnage in this thread is awesome heh.

Great pics! R8 looks like nothing in that company heh. Ditto the NSXs - but there is some SERIOUS kit there isn't there. A lot of those would be once in a life time spots heh! Dan

Was there a Mars Red Vee there :p ? Good pics dude :)

Didn't the Meggy and the ST go round before the circuit change though? An that appears to be worth quite a bit.

Woooooooooooooooooooooow who cares :) Worry about something more important. Dan - Clio R27 FF

I can confirm that even with a broken front shock, which is getting fixed tmrw under warranty, it's better in the corners than my Vee was :)

EPIC. It looks just like a race car :D

The 106 GTi/Saxo VTS post made the most sense to me tbh. And no torque from the 197? It's fine between 5k and 7.5krpm - just keep it there boyo ;) Dan

<sits back and basks in awesomeness of own car choice>

I'll be aiming to get there for 7-7:30am. Staying nearby also. I'm a bit broken at the moment so I'm bringing for fold out chair and basically just sitting down all day :D Dan

So, in summary, the R27 is the best. Awesome :p

Alexanders Motor Company? I found them very good to be fair. Someone said they were getting a new something (I think it was a shock or something) and the dealer called it the 'Extreme pack' - I think it just means both cup packs. Dan

Yea I used to get that ALL the time. It's as if they don't want you to know they're looking at the Vee - they don't want you know they're drooling with jealousy I guess...

Ah fair call, but I'm not convinced a Cat D anything is a wise idea to be fair. I'd probably look for 172 Cup with Climate in this case if I'm using it as a daily driver as well :) Dan

I was just adding on superior option ;) Seriously though - the 197 is very close to the Trophy on track times based on that Evo article, and is different to what he's owned before.

But when you wanna move the £3.5k Cat D on in a year or so, you'll be able to get none - Cat D Cups for that - and as that's such a small amount of pennies your Cat D will be worth 4 10ths of f**k all. Stop being a pikey, get the Trophy. Or Trophy owners will mock you. Or just get a 182 Cup -...

I probably would give a small wave to another R27 if I saw one on the road. Which I haven't since I had mine. And I certainly would've done to another Vee when I had mine. I would always return a wave/flash as well from another RS driver :)