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hmm.......so why i have more trouble when racin the older golfs than the newer ones?? even my vw loving mates have gone back to the mk3-4 vr6s cos the new gti s werent up to standard.........even with a turbo their words....lol.. altho 1 has now moved onto beemers. but...

n u know the score yoz lol ;)

arent they for renault sport.i.e new cars only?? lol new cars faster than their older siblings.......ffs....tell the golf boys that lmao.even the diesels are now faster than the gtis. mk2/3 gti golf vs mk woteva they on now lol.....old wud rape it

so its a FACT that the 182 is the quicker car????? lmfao prove it.

no mate it isnt.....its got more mods than mine at the mo...being a std engine with chip....lol edde.......evo may be quicker round the ring than u..but lets be honest....the willy u have seriously underperforms for the mods... evo...u say this that n the other, ppl will disagree....only...

im sure there will be plenty other oppertunities for evogone to show us the error of our ways in choosing a williams over a 182, or woteva it is that he drives. tracks, strips, roads..........wherever, youl still only be seeing the williams from behind

mrs has just got one......not a bad little motor tbh... feels like im tryin to punch a hole in the dash changin to 1st 3rd 5th n reverse tho. and feels sooo lethargic its unreal, even the works van feels loads quicker seats are pretty comfy, best bit tho...the rears are better suited for...

no mine isnt standard........but neither was the cup. we both have same mods, only his is on a full stregnth engine, whereas mine is on an engine which is down on power due to the wrong head on it. std vs std. we used to be about same, mod vs mod iv crept past him.... u want a std...

lmao at this thread. the only quick mk2 clios are the rsported cups......end of iv seen maybe 1 or 2 other 172s in the 14s at the strip, hardly any. loadsa willies, mk1 hybrids are there. and have been for years as for which is quickest.....well my underpowered...

yep.........cant argue with that. they are both great cars....but what i dont get is all this....'ooooo a williams is too precious to drive' bullshit wtf??? what exactly are they?? thats rite a fukkin car...cars are built to be driven, some can take more punishment than...

and so do the doors...cos of the door bars in the willy 2 and 3, and the ph2 valvers

sorry but no one works on my car but me and wayne at chip wizards. discount on parts is always welcome tho ;)

bollox....why cherish em? they are the ultimate drivers car, in hatch form.....so why the fuk not drive em?? they like to be ragged.....they thrive off it..the more i rag mine the better it gets, and it always comes back wantin more

im not far from hebden.so go over the top road btw lol... have had a few dos down the bypass too lol..focus rs was the last 1 tho

i travel over that way meself a fair bit. have a mate that lives in cross keys. also go to appleyards pretty regularly for bits for the lads bike. seen a few clios over that way, none have bin intrested in a play as yet tho lol....

BOLLOX lol......u know the willies are quicker. pretty much agreed tho, for some reason most hybrids do seem to b a bit quicker than the willies....except mine;) as for bodykits etc.....the mk1 looks jus fine as it is...whether in valver or willy form...y change perfection??...ok...

or more ppl heard about the 1s..and couldnt buy them...so had to make do with the 2s....which could explain the low sales of the 3 hehe

early to mid 14s for me i reckon.....il stick it down a 14.1...gotta beat martin hehe. iv less mods tho ;)

i had an email from quaffe the other week lettin me know about this, seeing as tho i had been on at em for a while for a diff for the willy...will see wot happens lol.;)

lol.......wel see about that..hehe

yeah man...fri good for u??

i havent had me cams in for ages...lol yes the 1 time wev compared on std limiter, il admit i was caught lacking, but dont 4get thats on std limiter, std cams, and std valver head vs willy head reworked, cams, std limiter....so shud beat me really, lol...well until it gets to the twisties...

i havent had me cams in for ages...lol yes the 11 time wev compared on std limiter, il admit i was caught lacking, but dont 4get thats on std limiter, std cams, and std valver head vs willy head reworked, cams, std limiter....so shud beat me really, lol...well until it gets to the twisties...

lol.......he knows he wont beat 'THE 1 IN FRONT' hes tried many many times.....lol

thing is tho..like i said....i stopped tryin at 110.....(verbal limiter etc)......lmao besides.the car isnt mapped to run with the head/cams combo...so mine is under specced/powered and ill mapped for the state of tune its in at the mo. hmmmmmmm lol

lmfao....my cars runnin a std 1800 valver head, std willy cams...waynes re map and i still cane thejesus' arse. lol 4th 5th gear i wasnt tryin mate......dint wanna upset/embarass u too much like lol

chip wizards re-map.........makes more of a diff than awt cams ...eh jesus hehe :)

ahhhhhh the memories lol

sorry mate...but the nana isnt the quickest n/a mk1 clio........that honour belongs to the 2 live tuned beastie<<<<<<<<<<< up to now i believe. but def the fastest williams around. [Edited by 2 live on 19 June 2005 at 12:01am]

well.......iv not done this for a while... good luck in the future mate, was always a pleasure ;) donny 2002/3 .....ah the vids lol york/pod.........plenty good battles there me posting on here again..........after id said i wouldnt..must b summat special lol take...