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Ollie, Thanks, my view of things exactly! danny/Fred: I was in NO WAY doubting what you guys have said/done about the cam timing, only passing on what someone else has told me. After I have mapped it on the stock timing setup, we will see the results. The ultimate statement is this: Nick...

lol still at the unit but wrapping it up for the night now.... Out tomorrow night in Southampton of all places :D

Im looking forward to remapping, once and for all :)

AFR is still near enough the same (around 13.2:1)...

I believe (and as advised by another chap (tuner) on here via PM) that the cam timing needs to be set by DTI. Its the way we always do it with Kent cams, in fact any cams. OEM markings are crap, cams are made at all sorts of random base angles (Kents words to me many years ago!) It lost 50bhp...

Indeed, the aim here is to get the car mapped and finished. The car also loses coolant, but it doesent appear to be H/G...... no spills on floor near dyno so can only assume its leaving via exhaust... another issue on the 'to-inspect' list....

As I said on the phone Nick, the simple answer is NO. We have cotrol over the injectors and the Coils, and we read the sensors. The is nothing else to an engine that an ECU can alter to make power (apart from Cam timing or something like VLI on some seriously crazy japanese lump. If you have...

Bang out of order? Remember we came down and opened the unit at 9pm so he could take bits off and I left you wioth the key, which you then put in the door? I could have the attitude that we close at 5pm chaps, all colelctions/work to be carried out in those hours. The discs arent rusty (its...

Just ideas.... certain engines require specific backpressures for optimul operation, but if you say it is a good system, then I will rule it out...

Oh, the exhaust (and Nick will back me up) is a complete BODGE. I wont mention the company as thats down to Nick if he wishes to disclose it but I have never seen weldong like it, dread to think what its flow is like.....

Cheers Russ, my 2 mechanics say a gallon of fuel and a lighter will fix it lol, my attitude is I want the car to go away running spot on. Even if it is something that isnt down to us I dont mind doing it FOC as we have made the money we aimed to make from the conversion, and ultimatley I won;t...

If it isnt running around 200 after mapping by me then the engine/exhuast/transmission/bearings are at fault. It will make the maximum power that optimul fueling and ignition timing will deliver, on the particular setup that is currently there. That is the purpose of mapping....

Ive fobbed him off for 3 months with excuses? So far I have recitifed bad cam timing, and now remapping the entire thing for free. After having a look at it today, I am starting compeltly from scratch with the map down to inital timing offsets etc. Have been using a basemap for one i carried...

Nick, no I do understand, like I said will get it 'done' for friday. I'm going to pop it back on the dyno tomorrow and hopefully we can do some tests and get it either finished and good or at least diagnosed. Cheers :)

lol Nick with all that positive outlook I cant wait to sort it for you.... ???

It was 155bhp and we got it up to 185bhp....

We got a 155bhp engine up to 185bhp..... now we are fixing bad cam timing done by another company....

Exaclty my point. How far can we go? Should we check that people havent ran fuel lines through the backbox? Or the hubnuts are tight before we map it? Tghe list could be endless. Yes, I can confirm an engines health, but I would fully strip it and blueprint it to be 100%, and that isnt 'cheap'...

-confirm lift@tdc (don't assume it's correct for the cams just cos the Renault timing markers have been verified--cams could be fitted wrong way round---it happens)? -----I did suggest this but assured by Danny and others that the stock timing marks are spot on for these cams. Its not how...

That is correct.

We were never quick tot ake the money, and we did do a before run and it was a messy curve. As a tuner, we are tasked with a job, which we undertake. Nick came down, test drove the car and took it away, I asked if he was happy. He then brought it back as then decided he wasnt happy, and I have...

Stu, We are indeed workin away at it! Nick, if we can;t find the problem by the end of the week you can collect it but I would be happier if it went away running spot on.... Cheers, Matt

And unforutnatly we are incredibly busy this time of year with the race support and so on, hence the situation. If other garages are a little quieter, thats probably why their TB conversions are sometimes as high as twice as much as ours, and they certainly wouldnt try and help as much as we...

... um think you are all missing the vital point here... The car is not working due to anything to do with us, we are fixing it for him FOC... We have had the likes of Danny on here who is a well known and respected clio specialist, who foind the cam timing to be WAY out and then upon...

lol sounds like its our fault there Nick..... if the car worked (ie properly) it would make the cliamed power and be back with you 3 weeks ago! We're on it!

My thoughts....

Nick, Dont give up... not when its as close as it is.... We need to figure out what the problem is as it seems all the Clio experts on here are also at a loss!! Matt

#The VVT directly wired to the battery draws currwent and does NOT affect idle, AFR or power curve....

Oh yes :)

lol the oppoiste of 'no rush' which you said monday :P Will be done after japfest mate, we're flat out until then. Depends of course if/how/when we get to the bottom of the problem.... Matt