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Renault just rub me up the wrong way! They ordered me in a part which they mis-ordered and told me I had to pay for it, when I refused they told me they were going to debit it from my card as they had the details... So I had to pay for it and it was no good. Paid them for something that was no...

More the poor dealer side of things I would hope ?

Agreed... (just a coment, it may be too formal, should we include a little humour to help things along???)

LoL ... Yer baby... Anyway, we should head back on topic Rob!!! Right how, should we do it then. We need to work out what we would write to TG and agree it between those o us that wish to organise it (and everyone else who wants to have an opinion). Then we need to nominate someone to send...

We already are Rob, down at the GAYBAR!

We have all tried Renault individually, do we now try again as a group or just contact TG and shame them in as many words?

Im sooo busy, have a big project on at the mo but could have a look at contacting them this arvo if no one else does? <A target=_blank href= "mailto:Utop.gear@bbc.co.uk">top.gear@bbc.co.uk Someone could send an outline of what we want to do, explain we are from a club but not use the club...

Thats the way, someone who has lots of spare time (Chavy?) could get in touch with TopGear!

Mixed opinions, do a search. I used to use it, not anymore!!!

Its going to be hard to explain this one mate... Either you can do wiring or you cant! Where are you from, if its South London or Kent I can sort it for you if not there must be someone near you that knows their stuff!

As far as I see, were not being unreasonable, just asking for a more serious approach to service and workmanship. If only the people who worked at Renault were as passionate about the cars as we are on here!

Sounds good, I would sign.

Takes one to know one fella!!!

I agree with Tom, this needs to be done/co-ordinated properly or we will look like the monkeys they employ!

Where are they based Tom? We should set up a standard email and all send it to him on a set day?

Come on, lets do it, we are a big force to be reconded with and if it all goes tits up Jas can use the membership dosh for the lawsuit!!!

I think we should act as a group and contact someone like watchdog, theyed love to have 250+ Loyal and repeat Renault owners all turn up with Clios on an air field having singed a petition... Someone would have to do something if that many people did something!

You will gain a bit, I did, as it is a straight piece of pipe, with nothing to slow the flow like the cat does! The back box will be a bit more effective than the original and the bypass more so than the cat, so you will gain a little from both!

In my opinion, its Fcuked, looks like it has been semi rolled and at the price the guy selling must have been in the film Snatch!

Yer it will be a quite a bit but not too much, mainly on deaceleration!

I did mine yesterday, witht he K-Tec and its noticeably louder but still good fun!!!

Does six points for speeding count as major ? ? ?

Saving it for Dannyboy and me? ? ?

The UV light!!!

Thats a shame you wont have to guide me now!!!

The text changes its self if I copy it in from word and wont let me change it... I have to do that so at least it looks like Im working, as the boss in the office today!!!!

Well it went on far too easy… And what a difference to the sound it makes, it burbles the whole bloody time. Only thing is it does have a little vibration on deceleration at about 1500 revs downwards? Any ideas? I may re-hang the exhaust. When I took off the cat all the bits feel out of the...

Whats going on here then?

Have you seen the latest member ? ? ? Looks like a familiar name to me?