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How's that happened LOL. Opps.

Oh I completely understand the benefit of cheap :p I'm not suggesting CS ditches the 15" F1s and everyone move to 17s and big tyres "because race car," the track (even race) cars on CS don't have the budget to make big wheels & tyres work. I personally suspect that what actually makes 15s work...

Yes I completely understand where the advantage comes from for Clios and I'm not suggesting everyone move to 17s and big tyres "because race car," the track (even race) cars on CS don't have the budget to make big wheels & tyres work. It's just the assumption that small = better, when it actual...

Haha I'm getting better! I still type out a reply to the silly threads, but can now hold backspace instead of clicking post and immediately go to a different website :L I did lol at my complete inability to type the whole sentence in that 1600cc F4R thread though, so I too am guilty of...

That comment reminds me of the "Clio aerodynamics" thread where a sizeable amount of members with not the slightest formal background in mechanical engineering, let alone aerodynamics, were guessing at the effect of the modifications someone had done to a track car, when it was modifications so...

Interesting thing to google. The ones I saw only measured bump steer? The principle is similar so I guess there are more expensive ones that measure the distance on two planes and leave you to do a bit of maths. Astonished that you can retail those sorts of items for several £££ though. They...

I'd use some really short M12*1.25 bolts to clamp a steel rule to the hub. Have a big set square on the floor. Taking a wishbone angle of 0deg (to the horizontal) as 0mm bump - purely because it's a convenient starting point. Also the entire point of doing deg/mm and having a reference point is...

The HSCC Super Touring Trophy ran a 5 or so race calendar last year, visiting tracks like Silverstone, Thruxton etc so it's already out there to go and watch. Absolutely brilliant to see it supporting a BTCC round though. Last year the Silverstone round coincided with the Silverstone classic.

Haha oh dear! Helps to include all the words in the sentence. Interesting fact though :)

Look in the traders section for Renault Wolverhampton. In one of the stickies is a phone number. Ask for Adam & a CS discount. He'll easily be the cheapest you'll find. "Cat to manifold fitting kit" for a 182 and he'll know what you're on about. Roughly £17 IIRC

Genuine question as can't tell if YOU'RE (boy I am sharp today ;p ) were the S1600 engines an F4R with a teeny tiny stroke?

They were also a 1.6 lol...

I know it feels like a rip off, being on hold for 20 minutes at 40p per minute, but like insurance you're just going to have to pay... So standard renault alloys vs (example) turinis: One costs significantly more to replace if crashed One makes the car/wheels more attractive to potential...

I've no experience of more complex (anything beyond static RC) McPherson geometry so it'd definitely be interesting - double wishbone definitely does not give a true linear response, but the rate of change is so tiny it could be reasonably considered linear over the working range, so would be...

Sorry I mean camber change due to bump. (In the context of a thread about limiting roll, I was assuming he wanted to limit roll angle to limit camber change due to roll) In my defence I did say Deg/mm :o Maybe spring off , damper on & measure is a rainy (dry) day thing. Edit: I spose if I'm...

Wasn't Llbrench the guy who claimed to have 6 PS3s under his bed, in about 2005? Since this thread has kinda gone waywards and camber change is being mention (which I'd always assumed was OP's reason for wanting to limit roll angle), anyone got a measured/approximated figure for camber change...

Could PM the trader Wests Renault on here, he'd be able to look up part numbers? (though even that's not 100% guaranteed as the standard/cup rear dampers have different part numbers despite being identical!)

Even then, if the standard TB flowed less than the RS2/lower inlet could cope with, then surely the RS2 for your many many ££££ would come with an enlarged TB. => Standard TB probably still not a bottleneck even with an RS2 & associated cams, exhaust etc. that people would also be running?

Dan SJM IIRC.

That's actually less-horrible than these sorts of gumtree/ebay links usually are.

I didn't mean to call into question your judgement or preference of spring rates, you're one of the much better placed members on CS to be giving that opinion, so sorry if it came across like that. I tried to word my reply really carefully to say that the OP is 100% correct in terms of the...

Correct, to maintain the same over/understeer balance spring rates need to be adjusted proportionally to each other. Increasing both the front and rear to 70/80 will change the relative roll stiffness to give more oversteer (or less understeer, depending on what his current balance is). I'm...

Do a search for "hub bolt spacing" for correct numbers or maybe even "172 cup coilovers..."

The spring/damper unit bolts to the hub with two bolts. The bolts (or rather the holes on the hub) are 54mm apart on the cup and 58mm apart on the non-cup suspension. (IIRC, the numbers might be backwards) This is why they will not fit. You could have the coilovers modified, but it's only...

Because he's old :rasp: So to be fair to Fletcher I'm sure over a grand does sound extortionate to him, but for me or you it's just the sort of amount that insurance costs for youngsters these days.

RS Clio insurance for young people seems to go one of two ways (assuming they quote you): Surprisingly reasonable like yourself if you go with a particular insurer or two (I'm guessing admiral/elephant/bell? Possibly Aviva/Direct Line as they're also ludicrously cheap for standard cars once...

Would you mind clarifying the entries please? Are M-Sport directly running any cars in the BES (I noticed they've been hiring Race Engineers specifically for BES) or are 3, 4 & 5 doing BES as whichever customer they are, under the Bentley name? It's the C of G height that really hurts cars...

Surprised no-one's mentioned Porkie's F430 yet.

Well umm yes. Presumably because it's only circa 400 RPM (which is nothing) above idle, where it makes absolutely eff all torque.

There'll be numerous threads on "common things to look out for" etc. on here, I'm sure the search feature will give you hours of reading! http://www.cliosport.net/forum/search.php Main points are generally: * No reason why these cars can't go well above 100k miles if they've been looked...