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ffs :(

All the boyos in Wrexham used to cream themselves over these, and GTE Astras. Town was full of em when I was at college! I love old Vauxhalls also, Nova GSI in silk Violet, yum!

^ this

LOL at the CS police! Longs the cars warm its fine! Far too may fags on here, but then again i suppose its a gheys car The 197 light is much better than the Mk2's, centre of the rev counter, nice and big :) The 200 even has a nice beep!

Looks nice, but cant fathom why you'd stick crap coilovers on a car thats excellent reputation is its handling in stock form?

I would have no issue if it was a decent brand! In fact my 197 is sitting on some KW's, bought for near half the price of a new set, as new boxed. Win.

Yeah, doesnt work imo! Steve from Birchdowns (sbv116) Or on White,

Think you sprayed your headlights by accident?

It will kangaroo when cold for a min or two, all do this. Make sure the gearbox is sweet ABOVE 5k rpm, particularly 3rd to 4th. If not, it usually means bad syncro's = expense

jesus.......

Spot on! I'd be happy with that :)

+1000000000000000000000 H&R, Billies and now KW is what i've used. Did have a set of Gaz on my old cup, proper nasty, they lasted a month untill I got hold of some H&R's. The difference is night and day

They are better put together than the Mk2. What pieces are you talking about? The steering wheel suffers the same fault as the Mk2's, but everything else feels much better. Only issue i've had interior wise is the speakier grilles rattling. Easily sorted with some squeak tape

Here we go, http://wmpoweruser.com/simple-trick-to-force-the-mango-update/ there may be one other user on here lolz!

Trophy also you goon ;)

pics? ;)

That helps imo I drive a van all week @ work, then come weekend the Clio feels ace! If using it as a daily and especially in town traffic, it would annoy the f**k out of me. Lucky i live in the sticks, B road blast ftw!

Cupped 182, try one (again) ;)

Dont get me wrong, i'd have a Mk2 again if i needed to free up some coin as they are fantastic, but day to day, i found my last cup a pain. Heavy clutch/ rattly cabin. The mk3 is a MUCH nicer place to be day to day.... Still thats the problem with the pcp deal, you either need to stump up...

It'll feel 100 year old in comparison, whats the budget? I'd try a 197/200

Think I'd rather have a new quarter in that? nothing worse than a panel full of filler whilst looking down the flanks! Also that would need a fair kick to induce that, I tried to kick something similar out of my old Punto GT, and it takes loads more effort than you think!

You might save £200 a month, but do you have a good 3-4k saved up to buy a 172 outright? Imo its madness, the mk2's feel soooooooooo old when you've had a mk3. It'll annoy the f**k out of you, it did when i sold my first 197 to go back to a 172 Cup.

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Lovely :) Would it not have been easiery to chuck a 230 lump in it? I'd love to do that to mine, remap 250 turnkey reliability

Hmm, less arch gap, but I bet it sits higher, and the 18's wont help the acceleration imo. Paint looks ace though :) Its face is still ugly as sin though :(

sorry to disappoint, but not on fb, did you want a'poke' :/

My Cup has no AC so you just need a Cup set-up

Wrong Maybe ;)

nah, unless its your '250 Clio slayer', its w**k iirc? Most days you're w**king yourself into a coma over how quick your (mrs) Mini is. A 2k scoob can be made quicker still, doesn't make you a hero ;)

Different bodies anyway (between the H&R/Billies)