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My neighbours are Joe and Jo Average. They have more money than most of Cheshire put together. But after correcting a few of their cars, he now goes out and washes it himself to keep it in that condition. Even the cake faced receptionist at the Aston dealership I pitched for business at 17...

See, this is the reason I'm asking. I don't have the necessary space or hardware to do this. So for me, it's a case of detail and protect it will every 6 months, then use a decent pre wash to soak the grime and take it to the local jet wash.

So. Lots of discussion about this stage recently because of ASDAs price drop on a relatively unknown product; Rapid Dirt Shifter from CarPlan/Demon Shine. Much like AF's Citrus Power, this is an LSP safe pre wash spray that breaks down grime. The question is, with ASDA able to sell this...

I have no idea why you (Chip) think the above photos put any weight to your argument. Heavily edited and the first one shows very dirty wheels?

I give up.

Oh and lol at you using protected when discussing detail as term - I see what you did there ;)

But that's the point. If you clean you car properly, you won't need the detailers to correct the work... Valeters damage the car more than is necessary. They do more damage in a single "sitting" than I/Kev do/does over 6-12 months. So again, it's education. We're not saying you need to spend...

But surely it's all about education? How many people now use the sponge/chamois brigade over the brushes at automatics? Why? Because it says "no scratches hand wash" on the sign. If you went through the entire car owning population and told them about the 2BM, more people would do it. But...

I think Kev was talking about an hourly rate. So the valeter charges £25 for an hours work, whereas the detailer charges £350 as it takes them a day or more.

All done to the lumberjack song, of course.

I'm a valeter, and I'm OK. I work through 300 cars a day. Love a sponge and a chamois too, but talk about PDGs - I don't have a clue!

Are you lot talking about the car in the OP, or posting in the wrong thread? 2013 and 5.7seconds is slow... and 30+ on a run is bad fuel consumption? Clio blinkers on me thinks... Great car at 20 or any age! Enjoy it and good luck in the new job pal!

Funny how if I'd try to launch one of our recent products with another publisher, I'd have been laughed out of the room. With pink pages, SIMPLES. Brand powa.

You mean how many vids/how much presence AF and GT do/have? Clever, huh. You should see the recognition analytics we get through at work for someone like Barclaycard. Do a single ad once a year, people recall is about 11%. Do one a month, 87% recall. Quite fascinating actually.

Yeah, so; http://puredetail.net/price-list.htm - "chamois leather dried to a streak free finish" versus; http://www.puredetail.co.uk/g-techniq-details/ - "paint thickness measured and full report" I wonder what insurance the former holds... And I wonder if they are aware of each other...

Point missed, but I agree with the first comment. "Approved by" means jack all. It means he's used the products. I'm "approved by" GT/AG/Megs because their reps have commented positively on detailing threads on DW. Authorised means they're trained and certified. Last point, meh. It depends how...

Different vans and mobile number, so guessing it's a different company. Would just be interested to see if the former is a rip off of a well known DW detailer, the one I posted up.

Interesting... http://www.puredetail.co.uk/ At £30 an hour, one presumes he is not GT authorised...?!

Bill @ Badger5 ftw. You'd get on well with Paul and Welly on AS.net.

"Raceglaze Alcantara Cleaner comes pre-diluted to the correct strength for safe use on all Alcantara surfaces, and should thus be used neat. For stain removal, we recommend that it is sprayed on to the affected area lightly and then agitated lightly using either a Raceglaze Leather Brush or...

No. But before they look like an old sweater that has bobbles on it. After looks like a sweater that doesn't have bobbles on it after being de-bobbled.

GT. easily the game changer of 2011/12. C4/5/1 are still the go to products for semi perm wheel/plastic/paint protection, G1/3 for windows, Gwash is superb, C2V3 is exceptional by all accounts, i1 is the best fabric protector I've used... Need I go on?

Should be good if it has nanosealant self clean properties as proposed above. As suggested, the only concerns with a product like this, or rather the only query in my eyes, is bonding to surface (what ever that surface may be covered in, i.e. glaze).

Superb!

Malice, where are you based? There's a chap in the NW who you'd have a good chat to. Runs a garage and personal runs a B6 S4, B5 RS4 500+ and a B5 S4 600+. And some "shitters" (S3s with BT conversions).

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This likely to last on wheels? Appreciate it has nano sealant properties, but the bonds of products to the medium are the weak point on high temp locations...? Questioning, not questioning you ;)

He always does this. But then never tells. I'm about to text you, Northern Northerner.

And rust.

Kev, please upload the video (going to buy it anyway, but would be good to see). On a similar note, I hand cleansed the panzer before a show a few years back. Then used V1 over the top. With two layers, some minor marks were filled. With three layers, it basically looked like I had cleansed and...