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I do hope a lot more 80s/90s cars are included.

Yeah, riggers too. Fair point.

You can play a game for 24 hours with no connection, but MS require you to connect after that. Not sure why, I'm sure it'll be documented somewhere. Think it's something to do with constantly downloading updates etc. But, in essence, if you've got a broadband connection you should be fine. The...

You just need an internet connection to play the games. If you've not had a connection after 24 hours since the last time it was connected, the game won't play. So you get 24 hours of "disconnected" time to play the game. If after that period you still aren't connected, you either need to...

This guy will know better than most.

IIRC It's down to the publisher I think. You can trade it with a friend only once or something like that. So there'll be no pre-owned games in shops or anything like that, if my understanding is correct. But then it maybe isn't. Sony are enjoying the backlash on all this though, clearly.

LOL.

At least we don't live in Asia: http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/11/xbox-one-launch-asia-2014/

Well, it's down to the publisher as they apparently reserve the rights to the decision whether they can be sold or traded.

I think it's the whole "buy a new game for £50 and then can't sell it on EVER so you're stuck with it" kinda thing. That's what folk are running around in their knickers worrying about.

Meh.

Was that running on XBO or PS4?

From MY point of view, XBox advantages: More of my friends are on XBL and will buy the XBO. I prefer the user interface. I much prefer XBL to PSN. The controller. I find the exclusives better to play (Forza Motorsport 5) - this may be due to more friends playing, as said above. Achievements...

The SNES did.

PS4 will come with a GTA V bundle apparently.

The MP gameplay footage was clearly hugely scripted, but just shows the potential of the full game.

1 controller? How clever.

I am yeah. I missed everything from Ubisoft onward, so I'm watching trailers of the games folk said looked very impressive. I have to admit, I'm hyped. Everything looks just so damn good.

World of Tanks. Don't think it's been released yet.

Well, if graphics can be like this in gameplay and obviously not pre-rendered, I'll be hugely impressed. This is the sort of stuff I've always looked forward to. Like, at times actually not being able to differentiate between reality and a game.

Is that free to download on Live?

The next 2 will be Assassins Creed 2 & Halo 3

First time I've heard or seen it too. Just wow, even at the environment damage and inclusion of friends coming in to help out.

It is yeah. It looks incredible. It's going to be an expensive year...

Jesus. This looks great.

I didn't see the Ubisoft or Sony presentations, are there any vids of The Division and is it a PS4 exclusive?

Single player can do one.

Yeah but next gen should be close. Either way,