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To those saying they're firm...compared to a Cup equipped 200? Mine was a non-Cup 200 and my ST only feels marginally firmer.

Your throttle data looks to be really 'damped'? Either that or you have an impossibly smooth acting right ankle!

Excellent work! Any mods to your brakes? Throughout my 125k mile 172 Cup ownership I always maintained that with just tyres and brakes you could keep in touch with just about anything. Nice to see someone doing similar instead of going the predictable full on from the ground up turn it into a...

Nice video. Was rooting for the Clio all along, shame it ended up a tenth shy.

Was he doing that in the corners and when on the brakes? What was the car doing relative to him at that time? Falling back further or closing up?

Here's one that highlights that bikes have their weak points...as has already been stated above, in a straightline they're almost invincible. Throw braking, corners, and crests into the mix though, along with some dodgy road surfaces, and they're most definitely not...

Ouch! Hope you get it all sorted. This is a perfect example of why a £30 dash-cam is a very very good idea.

Nice. Looks very good too. Much as I don't need one at all...I want a boost gauge!

I'm curious...what does your lump boost to?

Sounds like you either have a wheel from a 182 Cup, or yours has already had the rubber thumb-grips refurbished in leather.

There's a nice looking one just surfaced on RenaultSport.co.uk, Silver, Lux, leather chairs, 12,500 miles, £17k...I'm strangely being drawn towards it!

I've had a couple of 'plays' with bikes recently. On country roads with very limited visibility and poor surfaces they're more than fair game unless they ride with a death-wish.

I'd go with that. My 200 may have been slower on track than my 172 Cup was but I felt like I connected with it/it suited me more than the Cup.

I LOLd. That's so very true.

I have no hate for them at all. As a way of moving along, as a piece of engineering, they're almost second to none. But as with plenty of others they do as much for me as any other white good.

It was your condescending post that mentioned hatches being tiny in comparison to the 700bhp GT-R. Like that needed pointing out.

Why does how much power it's got have any relevance at all to this? And size??? Seems to me you have an inferiority complex because you run around in a 'tiny hatch' yourself LOL

I responded over on STOC...not loud at all. If I had no badge on the back I'd challenge any normal person to even get the slightest hint from the noise alone that the car is modified.

...and a very very effective one at that. Effective at getting down the road. Effective at getting you around corners. Just not effective enough at making you 'fizz'.

The undefinable attribute that is referred to as 'soul' perhaps?

Yep. In exactly the same way that my 200 on non-Cup suspension was much more suited to my commute on broken country roads than one with Cup springs/dampers could ever hope to be. I love the brand myself. I love what they've created in the past. I just don't love what they created recently.

Just what exactly would become of this forum if all of the non-Clio owners f***ed off? Tumbleweed...

Mine's just an ST. They come with 200bhp from Ford so if you do need to put a power figure on it for differentiation, it's an ST200. Calling it an ST180 is like calling a Clio 182 a Clio 150.

WTAF is a ST182?

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Nexus 5? Mid-range price, mid-range camera, mid-range speaker, top-end overall performance and screen.

Mine was putting out 225 lbsft standard, 247 lbsft since MP215 was fitted.

Every time this gets bumped I have to go watch my YT video of 0-100 in mine just to remind myself of how good they sound. Love it!

Genuine FLOL at this!

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