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id say 197 would b more fun on twistys rather than an ST, but overall id go for ST, will feel faster and keep u awake on motor-ways and wouldnt b far off the 197 on the twistys fun-factor wise...

ok cool, so body shop seems to be the answer, any have a body shop they can recommend from past experience or recommend not to go to due to doing a bad job or expensive? has any1 had this kind of work done on ther car, how much did you pay!?

lol

ok sounds promising... i was just thinking of getting a really good quality sounding and performance exhaust and some good performance induction equipment aswell as remapping it should give it some more beans and smoother power delivary.

do you feel the results? like is it worth remapping, fitting a good performance exhaust filter etc etc.. or is it like many other cars... just not worth the money?

thanks for all the input, hereis some pics of the damage :( any advise what to do about the bumper? seems like very little damage to replace the whole bumper! but i want it looking new! it also looks like from the pics im missing the gaurd that sits behind the bumper to protect the...

i will get pics up and explain tomorrow, foooked and lost most of my front carbon splitter aswell :( , its not major major just the screws that attached the front splitter on have cracked and broken the bottom end of the bumper and there are stress marks etc due to the off roading :( is there...

how much is a new bumper for ph2 172? do they come in standard car colour or are they unpainted? :( h8 the ice :(

wow i like that, i have a flamer also with a splitter but looks very nice with the neat rear exhaust and anthracite turnis also lowerd abit more than mine! i envy u LOL. but nice buy very nice indeed! p.s what splitter is that?

just found these sites, not sure if they will come in hand to any1... http://www.torquestats.com/modified/index.php?pid=calculator&action=calculate_times&drive=FWD&bhp=145&weight=950&submit=Calculate http://www.letstorquebhp.com/fwd.asp?sort=Make

my apologies.... i thought i was the only person who commented about the colour :S? but i have re-read and can see what you are on about lol, sorry.

wrong... i never said i did not like the colour, i put a :( because i think the liquid yellow is such a better colour compared to the red... and i said "i think i would get a trophy if there was no liquid yellow 182 about with decent milage (link below lol), then trophy it would be fo sho...!"...

naa wouldnt b tracking it and prob would just keep it standard tbh...

oryt cool thanks m8 :D

lol so trophy seems to of out voted the 182ff/cup, trophy it seems to bee then lol i would want a very good clean and very good running example with good low milage on it, how much do u think i would be needing to pay to achieve this for nearer the end of this year? how well do they hold there...

i am truly and deeply sorry! :rolleyes:

i did not no that :(

i didn't relise the dampers were such an issue? how often are they supposed to go bust? tbh i think the ride will be better than my 172 ride, seems failry stiff since its had the 30mm drop :(

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me 2 lol

little carlisle airport lol, nice area for pics! :cool:

:eek: get out! :rasp: lol :rolleyes:

get out!

since u allll loved the alfa GTA thought id share a whole load more with u guys that we took from this afternoon! lol hope u injoy! tissues at the ready!!!! :cool: :cool: thanks

cool cool, yea a blast out in one would be a gr8 help decision wise! :D even a passenger ride would be a gr8 help! thanks alot m8 :D

ok so trophy just gets the edge from you guys lol but thanks for all the input :D i think i would get a trophy if there was no liquid yellow 182 about with decent milage (link below lol), then trophy it would be fo sho...! to me liquid yellows are amazing always wanted one in that colour lol...

there basically identical performance wise, trophy is limited edition with some nice extras which the cup doesn't get, but it only comes in red :( :S also keep in mind value for money, trophys are a little more expensive... which is the one to go for!? are the trophys worth that little extra...

yea looks very nice!

yep :D lol

also found this.... http://carsspyphotos.com/2009-renault-clio#more-435