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Yes I've literally just done this and taken a photo. About 6mm @ gap C

Sounds good to me. If I make extra power by accident, I won't complain :smile: OK next CRITICAL stage guys. Fan belt. This is all where it all went wrong last time and I wrecked the engine. Well actually it was my neighbour, who I no longer talk to... but thats for another day. See below. What...

Yes that really is a skill. I had no idea cambelts were this hard in general. Well I've got it the best I think I can for the moment. The setting tool goes in and out with one hand with medium force, but still nothing like you guys do. I took some time to take some proper measurements and did...

Yes! I understand exactly what you mean. That was what I was trying to say earlier but I did not say it very well. May i ask how you made your tool? I thought about adding some weld to the Renault tool and grinding it down, but I think it just would not be accurate enough. So I need to make my...

Nice video! How the hell can you do that? I really don't see how that is done... Ok, talking damage limitation - does it matter if your inlet cam is out by 1-2º? I don't see why it would thinking about it. There is plenty of overlap margin in the valve timing isn't there, so it shou;dn't affect...

Yeh I followed the manual step by by step. Just re-did it from scratch. Closer now, 1496 doesn't slide side to side like Dan said but it goes in and out with one hand so that's about as close as I think we'll get it. I've seen the error - it's with tool 1496 and the grooves in the end of the...

So where is the error in the system? I am not sure how far back to go. Should the cam pulley bolts be loosed?

Hey guys - back on the clio - spent most of the day trying to tension the timing belt but keep ending up stuck at the same point: Been going through the total procedure several times. I end up at the end, checking that the tensioner marks are good, and they are, but when I go to dry fit the cam...

OK well she'll stay @ 180Hp then. Thx for the honesty.

Wow - I had no idea. Coming from Nissan Silvias/Skylines where £2-3k will get you a reliable 300-400hp that sounds so weird. Looks like I'll be keeping the Renault more or less stock, there is obviously not a good £/Hp ratio there. I guess thats N/A in a nutshell.

I presume the done thing is to bin the dephaser and fit a normal pulley if that is the case.

Gotcha cheers guys.

Cool - there is a link earlier in this thread that links to pics of the sil80. BUT more importantly here is the build thread - http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?566318-Tokyo_black-s-180SX-becoming-EMPEROR-TUNING-s(Jont)-Sil80-Project&highlight=emperor That takes it from when I got it a...

Will do Dan. I'm away now for the weekend to help someone else with a car so can not work on Clio till Mon 😧 Can we change topic for a couple of days please? For fun. While doing this re-build I have been looking for tuning possibilities as I've gone along. I'm starting to like the car...

OK - gave it a wiggle and no movement, didnt want to go on any further. - so yes as you said bolted up to 20-30Nm and def no movement so is def on correctly or as far as she'll go. - next I put a level on the edge of the dephaser and it is perfectly inline with outer edge of the exh pulley. So...

Cheers guys. Doesn't seem any point in risking it so I will remove belt and have a poke around the dephaser and see if I can get her to sit a little better.

Hmmm well that was sh*t. I attempted to follow the procedure from the manual, but got stuck at the same part each time and had to abort... So, with TDC pin and non-timing end cam shaft lock in place: followed procedure turning through 6 timings, then torquing the tensioner bolt up to full...

That probably is about 6 rotations of cam pulley. OK here we go!

Hey guys got 5 mins free so jumping onto clio. Looking @ tensioning timing belt. As usual the service manual is completely unclear. It says after doing to bit with the tensioner to "rotate the timing 6 times using exhaust pulley". Well does than mean rotate so that the entire belt travels all...

Awesome - I'll try that tomorrow. The pulleys are MUCH stiffer than I expected. I guess there is a lot of friction. I guess I'm still suppose to still have the TDC lock in. The manual hasn't told me to remove it.

It certainly does! You have eagle eyes. OK I've read through the tensioning procedure and I think I understand it. BUT I just realised that I forgot to order Tool 799-01 for turning the pulleys under tension. Tried bodging it with some tools, but it's not going to happen. Sooooo... got to...

- Pulleys & timing belt on. Everything loose at mo except 2 idler pulleys which are torqued. - Lower timing belt cover fitted & crank pulley with bolt left loose

That looks right yes Dan? I believe that is pinned in place with tool 1054 now. I bounced the pistons into the valves a few times while trying to get my bearings, but it was very light hand rotation, so I'd be amazed if it did any damage: FYI - the service manual dioesn't say any of this...

Thanks, so have I! Gotcha - OK I'll have a play today

Cool thx. So with the cams locked as my picture are the valves in a state where they are all closed and so can not contact the pistons? That would be the logical thing. Also, out of interest, what piston state is TDC? It is when they are all neutral? Or when 1 & 4 are at the top of travel...

OK - only managed to get few mins to work on Clio this evening between the rain and customers calling to complain about late deliveries - I mean whats with that? Why do they call to say the courier is a day late? What can I do about it? Turn back time so the courier can try again? Really gets my...

Sh*te, I managed to miss Dan's latest post this morning but hopefully not the end of the World: - luckily at last minute I decided to re-reroute to the cam oil seals anyway, so that was lucky - timing cam oil seals now flush cam cover, maybe a tiny bit proud, <1mm - I did use sealant on the...

LOLs just spent the last few hours in the dark with the mozzies, scraping goey sealer off the head and cam covers! Not the relaxing evening I had planned. Oh well at least it's done now. It seemed prudent to get it done before the sealer dried completely. Dan, I took a pic of the cam covers...

Cheers Dan - OK I take the covers off tomorrow, clean up and try again. At least you spotted it before too late. - Big D at the top, great thats what I was hoping. - OK I'll re-fit the seals closer to the edge, I wasn't sure where to put them.

Right cooking on gas now: 1) cleaned and fitted stops, rocker arms and cams. 2) new seals for cams, timing end, didn't lube them so hope that is correct. 3) applied RheinoPlast to main cam cover. Wasn't sure where is was supposed to go, so went ape sh*t and put it everywhere. 4) fitted cam cover...