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£8500 I should think

my point is that "in the real world" an RS Clio wouldn't pan a VTS or GTi. They really do have lightweight on their side. I find the Cup is much more relaxed at motorway speeds due to the fact its not doing such high revs.

It's has an Audi TT's 225 1.8T - tuned up a tad! I think we should write to Top Gear suggesting a program about sleepers. Get J3ned Vs Clarkson in an Aston or something :-)

Little Newms had a video of his brakes smoking very much in the summer.

Ditto ^^^^ Will loose my D/L very soon if I continue having fun with it! 80 doesn't half appear quick if you're gunning it.

Normally if the repair cost is 60% more than the cars value the insurance company writes it off. This would be a CAT D. Depend on what rules the insurance company's underwriters have decided. All are a bit different even though the FSA should set out rules regarding such things. If the...

No, I meant because a 172 is only doing low revs and not in its powerband at that speed in that gear. A VTS is its powerband around at 60-70mph in 5th. I've owned both mate. I know what I'm talking about. Just hard to put into words.

Surely its the most reliable Renault in the world. Being VAG powered and all lol

I do have a problem with it. My VTR was much worse. Always missing gears.

£15k spent! where?!?!?!?!?! I can't cant see it! I'd be hard pushed to spend £15k on spray paint,vinal seat covers and extra badges. £5000 is too much imo. Looks like some 17 year old Chavs Corsa! I can just see that on the sea front at Southend with a 14 year old tart laying on the bonnet...

It's true. A good driver in a VTS or GTi should be able to give an RS a run for its money. Afterall the Saxo is about 150kg lighter than the Clio. The big advantage of the RS Clio's is the torque of the 2.0 16v - 147lb/ft Vs 107lb/ft of the VTS/GTi. The RS Clio will pull in virually any gear...

Find my Cup has better pick up with the 98 fuel.

Doesn't sit as well as Fred's imo. Maybe it was the surface them pictures were taken on.

Why go from a VTS to a GTi? Was the VTS not a very good one?

Not keen on the wheels. MK2 rear lights would look good. also the 172 mk2 door handles

Can you not paint a carbon bonnet? Can it be done?

Aren't mk1's quite bad in the rusting department compared to other cars of the same age. Still, Valvers and Willys do still look good. Not as good as a Cup or Trophy imo.

Nippy! Sounds pretty mean to! I love this new 4mb BB connection! Downloaded in under 5secs I reckon!

That cars been for sale for months! Knowone is their right mind looking for a cup should buy that imo. Its not what the cup's about!

Bloody noisey

2.0 badges. ;)

Safer,harder to steal lots of reasons.

He might not want hardcore though.

182 Full fat with Cup packs in Artic blue.

Its hard enough in a Cup. Must be a nightmare it a 172 or 182 with the A/C

^LOL! Nice one mate!

Yeah I agree. Round my way there is a purple corsa special edition thing. Looks like a 1.0 grannys shopping hatch but its running a Cav Turbo lump with over 300bhp! Ive seen it stuck to a WRXs rear bumper. Until the roundabout where the corsas mothercare designed chassis kicked in! Still...

Whos it for? Out of interest would the 172 lump or Meggy turbo lump fit in my megane scenic?

Good stuff mate. It nice to be proud of youre car - no matter what it is! At least you dont have to go round filling in rust holes before you wax it like these mk1 owners. ;) Bad taste! Sorry.....

Cant believe how cheap these buggers are getting now!! I love the mk1s! Bargains...