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I though perhaps they could have banned modded ones from the off, and then people wouldn't need to buy new ones when there old ones became obselite. Sam

Hmm. Seems that was quite clever of MS to boost new sales? Sam

Maz - lol - I was only kidding. Don't worry I think Mat61 is being silly too.

Fighting talk ;)

is it worth getting the premium?

Ok. Does that include a wireless remote for 230 and where is that from? Cheers for the speedy replies! Sam

How much should I pay for a second hand XBOX? Whats the advantage with the premium? Do they just have a hard disk? I am still struggling to come to terms with the fact I am buying a whole console just for ONE game! Thanks Sam

What a biatch! How is the boot floor? Make sure you take the bumper strip out...it woudl be shame for them to throw it away. Was he insured then?

Yoko A539s.

www.autotrader.co.uk

Niiiiiice.

Was that Hydehos?

Owned.

Tbh though, at least if it does all go wrong it won't cost too much to replace. Realistically the most you would be looking at is around 500 quid isn't it. Sam

In the twisties you would kick some arse too. Oh wait... you drive slowly around corners don't you?

This is exactly why I want to learn. After I had been driving for about a month or two and I started to push the car a bit more, I didn't know how to correct it when the back end went out. Without speaking to people about that and trial and error I would not have anywhere near as much fun in...

Fred - surely on a big roundabout early one morning when there is no one about, will cause no harm to anyone? S22 - Of course it isn't made to do it but it would just be interesting to give it a go. Why not?

Cheers for the replies guys, I will give it a go and will certainly ensure it is done in a good location. Thanks Sam

No I disagree. On the roads you will not be able to pull more G's with 17s fitted.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=234222?

Sean, when you said Yer it does who were you talking to?

The lack of tyre wall flex means they cannot flex to take in the imperfections in the road. As for being wider - 1cm wider really does make feck all difference on the road.

17s have more grip. Couldn't agree less.

But I don't find it controllable when you do that Russ. Is it just practice that makes it controllable?

Not so much in a straight line - straight line speed sucks. In the twisties is where it is at and that is where you would really feel the difference.

How is it done? I just cannot seem to do it without the handbrake? Sam

If you enjoy it hard in the twisties (:dead:) then get some 15s on there ASAP. Sooo much better to drive and IMO much much quicker. Sam

It was probably the ECU case rubbing. There is a fix somewhere for it.

Do you drive it hard?

Hate it. I really don't like the look of the campus anyway.