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Chris, the CTR will pull convincingly on a 172/182 when both reach for 5th gear. The 2.0 RS clios have no grunt in 5th, you dont need me to tell you that :oops:Who says anything about the speedo being out by 13mph? A CTR doing 160mph indicated will be around 152 real mph.
Same here mate, got mine from halfords last night.
Takes 24hrs to get it registered though in order for you to update it.
That wont be until tuesday now as yesterday was bank holiday and so is monday
Up until 100-110mph and its pretty close. Anything over that and the clio has no chance, a blip in the CTR rear view mirror.
Top speed wise, dont even go there!
Book top speed for clio is 137mph and book top speed of CTR is 147mph. Clio will go to around 146mph indicated, CTR will go off the...
The back 3 windows make it look like a van. Awful IMO
If your going to get it done, get all 5 done in a medium smoke. Youd need a ghey copper to whinge about medium smokes on front
The size of the turbo is relevant when quoting unrealistic figures. The K04 is too small to flow 297bhp. Fact!!!!
229 @ wheels equates to around 265 @ flywheel with this engine and transmission. Fact!!!
285 @ fly would be around 250 @ wheels hence why i doubt the original bhp figures!!
Now...
Mervin, proven wrong about what?
I am in the right with this bhp figure and what the turbo can and cannot achieve. God some of you are so far up each others arses its untrue.
An initial run of 297 was measured. My arse:@ From just a remap, LOL
Erm, too have a nice finished product.
Put a turbo in a 172 shell and id have that any day of the week. Put a turbo in an old orange sh*tmobile and ill just laugh, say what a waste of time and a big no thanks.
And you need to lock this crap.
I gave a valid point about the turbo and the inflated bhp figures but was shot down by the morons of cliosport who have no idea what they are talking about.
As he said let the 1/4 mile strip do the talking. My moneys still on Nick Reid though
Whos cupra j3ned? Certainly not mine.
Why on earth would i want to launch my car off the line, change gear twice and race against some boyracer in a crap orange shed heap? How exciting is that:confused: It doesnt flick my switch really:oops:
Nick Reids car is far nicer than the heap you own...
Bsimmer, your not getting it mate.
Its not the engine figures, the engine is capable of massive bhp. The k04 turbo is not!
Im almost sure he is using a Tdi box which would explain the higher Tx loss.
Probably because its a bench mark as its deemed as a fast car.
The clio isnt really classed as being fast so they pick on the old scoob to show how good tuned clios are.
Yes, the flywheel figure is guess work but @ wheels is measured.
The operator could have estimated a 20% loss thus making my flywheel figure much higher than 273 but the way it has been calculated its plain to see theres only around a 12-13% loss and not a 20% loss.
This is not just me mate...
I disagree Rich.
Are you saying that for each bhp gained when modding the car engine to increase bhp, the same % of transmission loss will come off that gained bhp? How can you lose the loss twice. I agree, you will lose a little, but no-where near the original % loss. The transmission is...
Rich, about transmission losses, they get lower as the bhp rises. You cant lose transmission loss twice.
A FWD car may start at around 18-20% but add say 60bhp and this will drop to around 13-14%. I think mines works out around 13% compared to 18% when it was standard. I would have expected...
The same engines but VWs come in 150 and 180 format.
The 210 and 225 varients have uprated engines from 150/180 format. They have forged pistons/crank and conrods and good for 350bhp on stock internals. The 210/225 engined cars have a larger turbo unit and 2 side intercoolers. Only Audi and...
Bsimmer, the 1.8T engine is capable of 500+bhp.
Turbos are only efficient to x amount of power. When you reach x, a larger turbo is needed to go beyond x.
A 210/225 turbo is only efficient upto 290bhp before needing to be replaced with a larger unit such as an IHI VF34
None of the VW range...
Chris seems to be the only 1 making any sense. I made a valid point about the turbo and what it is capable of, and what it is not. Why should i argue with a few morons who will not believe the hard facts. I personally dont like the car but i bet its like sh*t off a shovel and will embaress a lot...
Too many coc*suckers on here, going woah, wow, yipee.
In my opinion i think its a heap and i certainly wouldnt want to own and drive around in it.
My LCR may be a sh*t heap and a barge in your eyes, but you know what? I couldnt give a toss. Speak your mind is what ive always been told...
Because im questioning 210bhp - 297bhp with just a remap (87bhp gain?)
Ive never once slated a 172/cup/182/V6 or any of the lower engined new breed of clios. Its just the old heaps i have a dislike for, mainly due to the chavs on here like Jesus;)
Nothing wrong with the engine transplant at...
Yes the 1.8T engines normally produce 265/270 with standard exhaust. Spend £1000 on a full miltek and that will push it upto around 285.
Its the power @ wheels figures which dont really add up to the estimated flywheel figures.
Flywheel figures are a rolling road lottery. The operator...
Fast and quick no doubt. Everyday car, no thanks!!!!
Jesus, you own a sh*t heap so you change the record pal. Stop being tight fisted and buy a decent car:oops:;)
LCRs/S3s and TTs all map to around 270, but stick it in a clio and outcomes 297?
For instance, a remap, £1000 full miltek...
297bhp on the standard turbo with only a remap and uprated fuel pump? Seems very optimistic to me. Even the corrected fly figure of 285 seems a bit high with just a remap. Although the car engine only produced 275 on the day which i thinks about right. Theres quite a big gap between measured and...