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No not driven one, so my bad. ill shut up now. But to be fair its not like comparing a lotus elise to a 4x4 is it? They aint gunna be a massive difference between them.

But over the years the emissions laws are getting tighter and tighter. this will limit the power of the motors, plus as you say the cars are getting heavier with all the safety devices.

Thats what ive been waiting for. They best make it look somethin special like the RS cosworth etc. But maybe leave the whale tail spoiler out. I think the ST was too plain as with most 'GTI' cars lately? We want wide arches, spoilers, different bumpers compared with the LX models! We want it to...

Get the 172 Cup buy the recaro's with your extra cash and love it. The 172 Cup is the proper hardcore hot hatch that the trophy can only dream of being. Saying that if i hadn't have bought my cup and waited... id pick the trophy only for the exclusivity. There aint millions of 172 Cups...

From Chello mate, but bird lives ilkeston so always up there. there must be 3 cups about the place then... guted lol

Hey OOZE is that your cup thats sometimes parked up on the main road, on way to Ilkeston from spondon opposite the petrol station? Whay aint you guys spotted me lol

I think it does work to a certain extent, but you need to cover everything to stop the rattling and its heavy stuff. Not to mention expensive? My rear speakers rattle the trim i just stuffed a duster up there one either side which absorbs the rattling lovely lol (only so i dont add weight...

Alright dude, just a quick question, i ordered them Brembo disc's and ferodo pads from yozzasport last friday and still not recieved them? I was under the impression it were 48 hour delivery? Any chance of chassin it up for us as im getting desperate for them. Cheers dude Rusty

I would but not keeping the car too long so its extra money plus i found it a nightmaree bleeding car brakes compared to a motorbike. I know how bigger difference braided lines make tho , cuz that was always first buy for my motorbikes. With a set of decent pads!

Sh!te just spent 172quid on my Brembo H/C discs and Ferrodo pads from yozzasport? Could have told me earlier! These best be good fred? lol

Probably more than, as its a modification? could be wrong. I had a mate that did it he used the 16v engine cover and i think rocker cover (could also be mistakes) and you couldn't tell so he never told insurance company. If you have a major accident tho and it gets checked out you could be in a...

Defo its the exhaust 'rubbing/knocking' the heat shield as the lower engine mount is fooked. Common problem apparently, K-tec sell a powerflex uprated rubber kit, but some say dont make no difference. I just bought one and its being fitted today whist in for a service so ill pass my views later?

Mine Because its a proper cup lol ^^^^ only joking, bought it because i dont like modding and its the best handling/quickest(or nearly) of them all... The trophy weren't out when i bought my cup?

Just took my cup in for its 24k service and they had an F1 megane in the Derby Renault showroom. Stunning! had the bloke sort out some figures he gunna look at my car whilst it being serviced and having a chat with him later, i only want the seats lol, they would look mintos in my 172 cup

Yeah defo better driver in the cup, although spec wise 0-100 theres f all in it between cup and FRS? just shows to all you Clio vs anyother car down to driver not that your car there car is spec wise faster?

Mine might be worth some money then soon... Not wishing anymore to die but ya know...

Mate my cup is just as bad, and from what i bin reading on here for the past yr a hell of a lot of 172/182 have bad faults. Im startin to think there all sh!te... Im tempted to sell up also. Focus RS/ Lotus elise 111s im feeling

All these problems thats occuring im seriously looking at selling the cup... Its started to rattle already only 22000miles on the clock... The engine mounts gone as its knocking, got a ktec replacement just arrived ready to fit but heard it does diddly squat? every day i come on here and see...

That was my point - like for like? get a decent road car im talking a elise (good handelling car anyway) or somethin and round corners it will be faster than a road bike!

You aint met me! cat and fiddle road in buxton way a while ago canned a mk1 172 on my zxr 400, round the corners i was only marginally faster but not knee down as there's a eff off drop if you run out of road, and the straights well no question. But i do know the road well the guy was pushing...

lol, 18's why put big wheels on a fast car, it only slows it down!!! Ill keep an eye out for ya then now dude!

theres a silver 172 knockin round the tesco all the time, iwant his zorst, not too big, dont stick out too much. tis mintos.

Not regular in there mate so prob not me, i meant going to birds, (my girlfriend) and ave i finally been spotted, just missed the space lol

Im in west hallam alot goin to birdsave i finally been spotted lol?

Sorry bout my ugly mug in the pic, car was mega shiny lol...

<<<<< check mine out? i bought mine like it but think it looks different and kool!

dude when the warmer weather comes and i can bike it to work i might take you up on that deal!

yup ill go along with that i wash my car every week without fail and mine are corroding in the corners of the spoke's it looks crap.

Them mini stereo's are the dog's for a standard system my mrs has one... I changed all the speakers and an alpine headunit in my cup and its better quality than the mini's but no where near as bassy at volume? so probably not dude?

What about a saxo vtr? group 7, wicked lil cars and cheap as chips. Ok they aint the fastest or best built cars, but they still look kool imo and handle pretty good!?