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I cant help wondering how the renault developments have gone backwards over the years. Everyone seems to rave alot about the williams&now after the 172/182 comes the 197 which in many peoples views is one of the most disappointing cars renault have ever produced!

Exactly total waste. One main thing was the 0-60 &top speed is poor in the 197 than its is on the 172/182 You know you,ve hit a major problem when the salesman who took me out on a test drive prefered mine more than the 197 ;)

Daz- just one last theory is- do you have people sit in the back of ur car recently?? I get the service light come on occasionly and i found out that there is a few connector blocks under the passenger seat. Little test, take the car out &when the lights come on just reach under the passenger...

BB wont do anything. I paid them £1600 last year for one of their cam conversions. I had problems from the start but after getting confirmation from numerous other companies the car was,nt right they just started getting really sh*tty about it. Even on my last visit i was close to be assulted by...

Clio turbo- BB Tuning are a waste of time. Since the problems with mine and the other guy with 182 having complained about our cam work they have,nt wanted to know.

I have 40mm apex springs on mine running with the same size alloya&although it sits very low i dont really have any major issues. Speed humps generally you need to take it easy- a recent exhaust modification has left it close to the ground but apart from that its fine

Id be really interested to know how they fair against a 182? My neighbour has just bought one-little confused as his got more money than sense,just thought he would of chose something else! I believe the top of the range model is 3.2litre?? est 0-60 about 5.5! if i remember correctly.

Always see it, Oval backbox, smoked rear lights. Take the SPORT badge off the back Because its a fake!!

If your that clued up with cars why not look into a company in Sweeden called Roadtrex. They apparently do a supercharger kit that i knows been fitted successfully to a 172 which is running around 250bhp.

Ive always taken my car to my local garge instead of main dealer. My local Renault are francise so they charge well over the top for everything! Best advice like what ive done-find a good mechanic at a local garge and stick to them, im very fussy about who i take my car to. Im also gearing up...

Snap-Right if all thats ever come out of my mouth is verbal dribble listen to me this once! Focus ST,S are totally overated! Ive pi**ed all over them-they are NOT as fast as people make out. Also ive test drove a 197 and was very very disappointed. Yes its very comfortable and that was about...

Jus thought id ask. You guys kind of lost me on the 2nd page! lol But even still could you really use that sort of set-up in an everyday driving car? Would it produce much more power?

Id be to know how you plan to make this run on any engine management system- mine were the 421,s and they caused serious problems even with an aftermarket ecu your looking at major work i.m.o Unless im out of my depth here and your not going to be using ur car on the road?

lol

Yeah take a chill pill. Thats what Track insurance is for- If you crash your car and it wasnt properly insured then its tough sh*T ;)

I agree with that. recently had mine fitted and im really happy with the results

Thanks Ben, This explains alot in detail which sheds some light to why my car runs so poorly. Mine were the 421,s which according to the tuning company they would run fine as they had the power to minipulate the standard ecu to run these cams. Rolling road reports showed the cam timing was way...

I think this is a very unfair comment. From what it says showing proof of a very decent company. GDI didnt tell this guy where to go but work with him very hard to attept to resolve the issue. My situation with my car and the company who did the work after going back 3times simply told me to...

Slightly off topic- i WAS refering to a thread quite a while back from a company claiming to make 7-8bhp increase on modifying an inlet manifold- i asked for proof as i would of been more than happy to shell out if it was true,they NEVER posted any proof apart from their no1/no2 members of staff...

Your my Ricki Lake lol

Fred i think you should start charging as an advisor lol

Going off topic slightly when the inlet thread went up i caused major disruption because i asked for proof that it does what it says on the tin? No proof was ever posted up but i was singled out for asking a very good question. I can however say that ive seen proof of GDI,s work and can confirm...

Used GDI a few times and can honestly say everytime they offered 100% satisfactory service. Extremely helpful and very knowledgable

Dont worry about the vibrations as its because there is no longer any movement. About a year ago i changed over the bushes in the dogs mount for the uprated k-tec ones. In my opinion they are worth their weight in gold. I found before i was going through engine mounts every few months. I did...

I recently had the 421,s put in my car-set up incorrectly ruined my car. According to other companies that fit them the 428,s are the ONLY cams that will run on a standard ecu, mine however with the mapping has produces serious side affects and id seriously research them before getting them...

I agree. Personally at the end of the day its to be able to stand up and show you have a 172/182 thats a bit quicker than standard. You,ll often find in most conversations you have with non-clio owners about cars that as soon as you mention the word they laugh in your face. Ive suprised a few...

Dont forget the vauxhall zafira 2.0litre turbo-200BHP! But if your in 5th, forget dropping to 4th-try 3rd then your notice clio power lol

Looks fine, ignore the t***s above-Next step is a carbon fibre bonnet my friend ;)

I recently test drove a 197 at my local dealership. I went out with a mate of mine who works there. Was incredibly more comfortable but the performance was pants! Weather it was that it needed to be run in more or something who knows but my mate then took mine out and his reply was "wow"!

Sib- Whatever bad comments you hear from fitting a 182manifold on a 172 DONT LISTEN! Ive resently done it and i personally think its one of the best mods ive done to my car. Ive got massive improvement in torque and power throughout. My car is booked in to be remapped due to cams problems i...