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These vs threads make me chuckle, the vxr vectra is no scooby killer as fast as it is!! it has a 0-60 time of 6.5 same as mine and will carry on to 161 with an overweight bored of his life sales rep behind the wheel. as for the gsi.....please!

What i was bascially saying was if the guy in the CTR beat him it must have been modified, as like i said standard 2 standard would be chuff all in it, all i know is my mates 05 nighthawk black CTR with manifold match spoon zorst remap raised vtec limited slipp diff lightened flywheel good part...

Not so hard to believe a CTR beat you, the majority of CTR's have been spooned ( zorst) filter and remap so vtec cuts in quicker, my friend owns one and he says on his forum very little are standard. In any case standard vs standard i would pull a nats c*ck from him to 60 and at silly speeds he...

Exactly or Dont drive it other than that what advice needs to be said.

What 'advice' would you suggest?

I've seen that car in my local dogging site, he was having a GROUP N male gangbang 220 bhp.....TOOL!

Im lost for words, id rather pay a pound and be seen in an asda shopping trolley pushed around car park, wearing fook all but hooker heels!

Back to the original question as to whats best williams or red top corsa.....hmmm tough one actually its really not, a mint unmolested williams is pretty rare a corsa is one a penny, first reaction when i see a williams " nice " when i see a corsa wether it be red top or not its still a four...

If your asking if no ABS is an issue then to you it obviously is matey, i for one think you drive to your ability and not like a tw@ then your be fine, u drive like a di*k you can die in any car ABS or not, go for the vannesa feltz 172!

The only major difference is the flux capacator, wait till that baby hits 88!!

twas a 51 plate i believe not sure as to the time, but it was punishing to watch, and yes the cup would have the lardy lame loaf van!

stansted airport area racing a nighthawk black CTR and losing badly....:eek:

Nathan you just have to know the right ppl, my mate james is using it as his runaround the albi blue one, i was supposed to drive it last saturday, if you want ill pop down there with you.

Cheers i do try ;)

That be me finally spotted, well my car anyway with other half in it otherwise i would have acknowledged ya matey :approve:

I believe it was only the rarer silver 172 cup's that had cc but i have been known to be wrong.

As above outside restuarant on highstreet in Abridge yesterday bout 5ish anyone from here??

from sawbridgeworth into harlow, had a quick blast...anyone from here?? yesterday afternoonish..

1st spotted parked up outside casino, 2nd mcdonalds drive thru a127...anyone from here??

Newquay high street RTTS yesterday looking sweet.

Or maybe dsg volkswagen box, but it's up there !

Prime example of a prized c*nt, an unmolested 182 look's sweet, i cant understand the logic behind it!

CTR gearbox is fantastic, seats are pretty special, i drive my mates frequently not much in it until silly speeds then they will pull!

Marshgate drive. GJ***** about 9.30ish am

The 172 cup! getting rarer by the day!

All these vs thread's so tedious and predictable...ultimatley who cares!!??

0-60mph:7.9 s0-100mph:21.5 sQuarter mile:16.40sKilometre:29.20sTop speed:209 km/hPower to weight:137.56 bhp/ton Max. output:169.3 PS (167.0 bhp) (124.5 kW)@6500 rpmMax. torque:197.0 Nm (145 lbft) (20.1 kgm)@5500 rpm Can't see it being a car that would pull on a clio, even 6 gears and the...

Silver 172 on the side of the road as you enter ware town centre guy had glasses i believe, also black 182 a414 both spotted about 12.30ish maybe 1.

Spotted this morning at about 8.20 coming into harlow from sawbridgworth, then again near sawbo police station at around 5ish..

Aaah yes i think i remember ( not that a hgv is hard to miss lol ) where u from mate? leigh