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Dude. The Cup is 1021kg. I've already said the weights up there ^^^

Not a f**king chance. The williams is about 980kg iirc and that's about the same size as a rollerskate and made of paper.

I've always been a bit confused by the names for weights... I assume kerb weight to mean everything included. The book figure is 1021 Kg. ph2 172 is 1110kg ph2 182 is 1090kg ph2 182 Cup is 1070kg ph1 172 is 1035kg iirc

Oh and certainly the D40 lacks a few features that the 400d has.. but in terms of pictures, unless you were blowing up to A3 and beyond I doubt the pixel count makes any odds.

The D80 is about on par with the 400d according to dpreview. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos400d/page22.asp Personally I don't like the way the Nikons I've used process images. Falsely over-saturated inmho, but that could well be a plus for some people! Ultimately there's f**k...

How can comparing images taken by two different people at different times in different locations be a fair comparison of a camera ffs!! Come on!!

Get better results shooting in raw and post processing the exposure in my experience, but as James says you don't have to.

lol! Yup... Just checked. B34N. ;) :P

172 Cup turinis are ET37.5 iirc... think Trophy may be ET43? Guessing tbh, but the difference is in the offset. Although they should still fit?

I might get RenTech to see to it when i get my Aux belt done tbh. More expense :(

Everytime you start a new thread, THE TITLE IS ALWAYS IN CAPS! ;)

Mines leaking. I thought I'd read before they didn't use a gasket. b****cks lol. I remeber changing on on my old fezzy. £4 for a cork gasket and a ten minutes to swap it. Those were the days lol :(

tbh... you need to fix your caps lock key before you fix your car ;)

Step by step to what?! Read all the guides. Stick the fucker in Av/Tv/M and go and shoot stuff.

As above. Canon or Nikon. Or maybe even Olympus...Or Pentax....or Panasonic.... But definitely not Samsung. lol.

Doh. You're right. Thought it looked a bit flat :o

Pareked in the Crown car park in Yoxall yesterday afternoon.

182 Cup has Cruise Control, but only manual AC. The only thing it has that the 182 Full Fat doesn't is sunday market upholstery and a steering wheel from the bottom of the range Clio. It's 20kg lighter, which is approx half a tank of fuel.

Both. lol.

None. The 182 Cup is pretty f**king pointless tbh, especially if it's no cheaper. Get the 182 with Cup packs.

That's why I said 'by and large'. Like for like a car 89kg lighter is going to be quicker, no matter how insignificant. But in my experience you're right, the biggest difference can be whether or not you get a good engine in the first place. The Cup does handle 'better' imho. Feels...

Your's is modded though yes? Throttle response on my FF was increased massively with decat/GrpN ECU. The 172 Cup, by and large, is the quicker car though. But not by much.

And driving within your limits applies whichever you drive. Because ABS and ESP make no difference remember? ;)

What did we do before air bags? Before side impact bars? Before crumple zones? Argue all you like, but ABS is one of the most important car safety features of the last 50 years, whether you consider it a necessity or not.

Certainly never lost to one, but the odd one has stuck with me.

The biggest difference between any RS clio is the driver. Buy the one you like the look/spec/feel of. Not what the paper figures tell you.

I refrained from saying that as I normally do in every thread involving torrents lol. But seeing as you've said it.. Newsgroups FTW +1

What a novel idea!

My 172 decat cost me £40 to get fitted at a local garage and that's a bit of a b*****d to do. The 182 is a piece of piss. If you can operate a spanner you can do it youself. A garage should charge you no more than £20 for doing a 182. Seriously.

lol! Delete it and tell them you haven't watched it and that you downloaded it by mistake. You were actually searching for Golden Showers.