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Saw these in the paper today and thought the same as most I bet - What a simple yet brilliant idea lol Really nicely done too imho.

If you can afford one, buy one. Simple. Ignore the one man myth that he's created a 'home made Maxogen'. Because it's frankly b****cks ;) I've gone from a Maxogen back to standard airbox with panel filter and my car feels strangled in comparison!

I think there may have been certain Dynamiques sold as 'Sport' models. Whether that's what they were officially called or not I have no idea. http://www.usedcarexpert.co.uk/price-guide/Renault/Clio/2001

Not quite what I meant :o but thanks!

W4nker. lol :(

Well I feel the same as Jon... I begrudge giving the f*****s any more money. I pay them about £55 a month as it is... so another £300 for an HD box plus an extra £10 a month was never going to happen! EDIT - Back to Scutchs original question, seeing HD at a mates house made me want it...

I got a new LNB for nowt by threatening to cancel... but I've tried to barter for HD and they're having none of it. Been with them 10 years FFS lol

Says the man who put a Ph2 bumper on his.... ah f**k it lol Have we been here before?! :D

Number 1 for me! Love the composition, reflects the changing weather this time of year and the fact it's a landscape lol

Where can you get games from for this?

Come on mate. You know as well as I do that the two aren't put together like that. Ever. I'm getting defensive because that isn't what I said. As I said. Buy any RS Clio and you've got a good car.

LOL, with all due respect to Fred, I made my own mind up about the drive thanks. Untrained eye. FFS. You were wrong. Get over it.

The ph1's are softer... but deemed 'more fun' by some as a result. Horses for courses! Ultimately when we're done splitting hairs they're all cracking cars!

Without getting too pedantic, I never said there were 3000 including Cups. You're just on the defensive. And as for the drivers car comments.... sure the ph2 is heavier.. but what about the stiffer suspension? Shorter gear ratios? One thing we're all agreed on is ph2 172 Cup FTW tbh.

If you like? Although finding standard cars could be hard lol

I urge you to show me where it says there were 4500 ph2 172's built. Ooo nice edit. I think I've made my point lol.

I've never been wrong before and certainly don't intend on starting now. http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/roadcars/heritage/clio172/data.asp 4500 is the overall number of 172's sold. If you look closely (granted you' own a ph1 so your eyesight can't be perfect) you'll see there were 3,059...

I've said they're rare, relatively speaking. It's the "I never see them on the road" bullshit I don't buy. Try reading the whole thrad instead of jumping in to defend your car at the first sign somebody might actually disagree with your taste! There were 3000 odd ph2 172.... 5500 if you count...

Of course you do because they built more ph2's as they were for sale for much longer! The ph1 is rarer! It's the people who try and make out that there are like 50 of them and that they're really exclusive that I just don't get. Feel the need to defend their purchase I guess.

Ok.

I see plenty. I love the way ph1 owners make out they're really rare. They made 1300 of them! lol Tbh, with few exceptions, the only reason you'd buy a ph1 over a ph2 would be financial.

No. Was only offered late in the run as a cost option. Not real Cups imho. ;) There were 2,392 cups built for this country, 139 of which were fitted with Climate Control. 90 of them were in Iceburg Silver of which 33 had Climate Control. There are more Mondial Blue Cups on our roads...

Nah. Over shadowed by the Cup and Trophy in that respect tbh.

I thought they were 15,995? Reduced to 14,995 Anyway... Ph1 looks kind of dumb... and dated. Ph2 looks sharper and more modern. Because it is lol. All IMHO of course.

Ditto... Sports cat for the 172. It has a more restrictive cat than the 182 anyway iirc so a sports cat will still gain!

Can't find anything for the 172... But the price of the 182 system should give you a clue.... http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=1991 £1000 for the loud version. Does include a sports cat mind.

Yes I've heard the Ktec Stealth.. like a fart in a bean can lol I believe the second generation are better mind. Which leads me to the point... listen to some vids and decide which sound you prefer... because I doubt there's much between any of them in terms of horses gained.

Were they hard of hearing? Or just never heard a Ferrari?! lol In terms of performance I doubt there's much to choose between any of the exhausts. The decat makes the biggest difference in terms of engine breathing in my experience. I've had a Prospeed and now have the GDI/Piper and there...

First thing I though was Nikkor and cheap aren't usually in the same sentence! Depends what you class as cheap I guess!! The 10-20 is pretty good for the money imho

Badgers have cost me, to date ; 2 x Cup splitters, 2 x passenger side arch liners, 1x fog light surround and 1 x 4 wheel allignment. First time, my mates missus had written off her in front of me and my sister drove straight over the remains of the badger, tearing my splitter off! Second...