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Lolz!

That might have been my Granny in the Cayman.

Oh dear...0-60?! Are you kidding?! "I'm not about to start traffic light racing the guy I'm not 17" The OP.

I had a good blast with the gf in her mcs at the weekend. I was impressed but the run flats are gash! Not driven the 200 yet but it sounds good! Pity about the looks...

Apart from the front end and the MPG, the 200 is a great car!

Better than the MCS?

Yeah, mine has been great so far and like you, I never load it up off the line, so hopefully the clutch etc will last. The MPG is up, slightly, so I can't see how it's using more fuel. So far, so good, and the performance gains are impressive!

No probs Danny. I don't really mean this, I just think the lack of abs isn't an issue. If the Cup had come with abs then people would just bang on about another weight saving feature. I've not yet required abs and I'm certainly no driving hero but overall, I prefer the Cup and would always...

Cough...yes. Removing it today. Would still have bought it without. Choosing the 172 over the Cup because of abs is gay.

There is nothing luxurious about the 172 in any form, so buy the Cup. Get a BMW if you want luxury. (or similar) f**k abs. For gays!

There is nothing luxurious about the 172 in any form, so buy the Cup. Get a BMW if you want luxury. (or similar) f**k abs. For gays!

I agree but I think they just trying to keep some of the original Mini features. They are too funky for my liking but suit girls perfectly!:rasp: Quality cars but I'd always opt for the Clio.

The driver that tested the PH2 was better, hence the faster time.

It looks 3 times worse!

What Mini is three times more than the 182, or are we talking second hand?

Do a wee. Search. Plenty of threads with the main pointers to be aware of.

There is sod all difference to 100. In gear, the Mini will be quicker and at the top end but we're not talking 'into the sunset' here. As with a lot of hot hatches of this variety, there is nowt in it in real world driving - the advantage lies with the better driver. Both are cracking cars...

Ah, okay. You win!

No he's not. 100%.

Very little, if any difference between them to 100, give or take a hill or passenger. Straight road, no difference on a standard 182 and MCS turbo. The torque provides a bit more in gear acceleration. I know this too.

I've done a lot of research into them and the newer digital units are very good. VAG engines though, not Frenchy!

180 VAG is not great. Remapped however... I'm sure the top end of the LCR is very quick!

Why?

Sounds like a good wee test. Four nice cars that all have different characteristics and plus points. That sounds like the Clio's environment, so I would expect it to compete pretty well against the others - power doesn't always count for much on these roads. The 106 would no doubt have been a...

LOLz at does it rev to 16k!? Nice bike! I hope you enjoy it!

He knows his stuff!

Noob!

I'd say it's about right.

Or definitely.

Some great pics and a nice selection of cars.