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Nope, never heard of it either. Ive got the cruise on mine and whilst its a good toy, its about as much practical use as chocolate fireguard when implemented on our roads. Our traffic ( at least on the roads I drive on) is just too stop-start fast-slow for it to be beneficial. And its completley...

Lets face it, doing any kind of car cleaning in this weather is f**king horrible!! Its worth it though, just to see it sparkling in the winter sunshine!!

Same here.

So thats the weight deficit reduced by 28% (ish) straight away then...... added to the load on the engine...

Good lad. Could not agree more.

25 kg ?!!! Christ. How much lighter is the Cup compared to a mk2 172?

IMHO the cup and 172 are both bargains.......... The Cup is a bargain for ist "bang per buck" and the 172 is a bargain for its specification. New car discount.com are selling new cups for £11,400 and new 172s for £12,500. If you look at the extras you get for £1100, the 172 looks a bit of a...

Of course....

Here Here. I shouldnt worry about it too much, there are only a handful of people who take that kind of thing seriously.

Me too. I live at home with my parents, but Ive got the East Wing of the house all to myself.

Not really practical as an everyday car though... Thats the point I was trying to make ( to rickyboy) A "nice Audi" is not a bargain hot hatch is it!!!

Good to see my post has been taken just as it was intended.

LMFAO!!! Come on Rich theres nothing wrong with a bit of adventure!!!!

What kind of question is that?!! Why didnt you buy a westfield or a radical racer if you wanted performance and no frills??!!! I bought my 172 because I wanted to, the same reason, I assume, why you bought yours!!

I was trying to explain to a chick that they do a cheaper version of the 172, which is a little bit quicker and has minimal extras. I then went on to explain that it has the same engine etc, but as it has f**k all in it, its lighter and thus the power to weight ratio is increased resulting in...

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Second hand, I would say that a private buy(autotrader)would make the most sense, from a financial point of view. There are some REALLY cheap pre-reg 172s knocking about at the car supermarkets, but it depends on how much you have spend.

^^^^^^ Thats the favourite IMO. Sounds like the switched supply and the permanent supply are connected incorrectly.

Bugger. Looks like Im going to end up with tinnitus..

Hmmm. Not sure if I want to go to that much trouble. My original idea ( Im still fairly new to ICE BTW) was to swap the door speakers for some 5" co-axials, but Im worried that might leave me being bombarded with too much treble??

Is it a big job to put comp. set in the front? Would the existing wiring be suitable?

I was under the impression you can get a lead to enable you keep the remote control.......

Up to £100 a pair, but i could (maybe) stretch a little further.

Hmmmmm...... How did you time it?

Right then. I got my 172 last week, and whilst the standard ICE is not the worst Ive ever heard, its in need of an upgrade. Ive got me heart set on an Alpine CDA-9812 RB head unit, but I would like some advice on which speakers to buy to replace the factory ones. All I want to do is swap the...

Yeah, might be a pre cruise control model or something......

Told me that it was expected at the dealers on the 24th. It was delivered on the 27th. Three days sounds about right, but what it is they actually do with it for three days Ill never know. I know they have to PDI it etc..... but three days?Who knows.

Your right. Sorry. Welcome to the forum 17too cup. Enjoy!!

Sorry mate cant give you any info about the mods, but welcome to the forums!!! Glad to hear your treating your cup to a good thraping.!!

Now thats a bargain^^^ sub 15 0-100 for 11000. By the same token I think both cars are an absolute steal at the price, the cup for its performance and the 172 for its toys.