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The weight difference plays it's part, as does the engine (slightly less refined but much better throttle response), steering has more feel, the ph2 feels less adjustable, less fun.

How easy are they to live with in a road car? Easy to get in and out of etc.

FlameR, thats my favourite acr on the forum. Until mines finished.

Coil pack

Gear ratios slightly longer on the ph1. Evo ran both, could never match the ph1 times.

Ph1 better to drive, slightly quicker, cheaper to run, better throttle response. For the price of a ph 2, you could get a ph1 with the body mods done, and stretch to coilovers. I've had 2 ph2's, now a ph1.

IIRC some companies class the cup packs on 182's an modifications, even though thats how they left the factory.

Normal. The 1st few minutes is to get through emmission tests, the reduced limiter stays on for about ten minutes.

Black is bad. Looks like a normal clio, get flame or monaco, followed by iceburg, black should be bottom of the list. Realised last night that I've owned all of the 172 colours except black.

Having had both (172 + 182), go for the 172. The 182 is not worth the extra. You could get a tidy 172 for under 5k, just make sure the belts have been done.

If the cars running fine, I wouldn't worry about it. You're out of warranty, they'll charge you for the privelege of looking at the car. Mine was on for 18 months, without any issues.

Anyone close to birmingham? Just fancy seeing the difference between the H&R's and the AST's on my car, as I have a friend not sure which to go for.

Instant lifetime ban for posting that picture IIRC.

Will do later, the 15's go on today. Have to meet up when you've got the golf, you won't believe the handling now. Been playing with the settings, neighbours think I'm a loon always lieing under the back of the car!

I think one of them was broken, so he did them both. I just like the way it looks, more aggressive IMO.

Under the headlights, the vents had the middle section removed.

True, similar to monaco, needs bright sunlight to llook its best. Opposite to inferno, which looks best in the dark/

Mike, thats one of the nicest one's on here. I'm tempted to do the burp front bumper mod, seems to look more aggressive.

mine looks cleaner than yours.

Will look a bit different later, new wheels on today. Paint next week hopefully.

Correct. Trophy;)

If you can afford it, out of the box, the Trophy's the best to drive.

Got a ph1 on AST coilovers. Ph-quick has never been more apt.

I've had a 182, a Trophy, 2 Ph2 172's, and a ph1 172. Only mistake I ever made was selling my ph2 172 for the 182. The 182 handles a bit better, is no faster, looks worse (my hatred for the wheel barrow exhaust grows and grows). Looking at current prices, a 182 costs about a grand more than a...

Does she have air con

17yrs old, trying to test drive a group20 car. Think the insurance wouold cost more than the car.

Got a set of 4 182 cup pack wheels, average condition (bit of kerbing etc), with 4 tyres all with good tread. Any idea on value?

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F1's for me.