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As a lot ofpeople seem to be looking / buying EP3 at the moment I thought that I wouldjust share my views on this as this may help people out . I have just sold my Civic Type R (EP3) that I have had for just over a year anda half and have replaced it with a PH 2 172 . First of the steering...

This Cost +performance it is hard to beat . Sold my Civic EP3 type R for £ 3000 Brought my Ph2 172 for £ 1400 Both very much the same car as far as performance / fun but the Clio will do 35MPG and has lots of toys compared to the civic and is newer and less miles . Its really a no brainer...

+ 1 iv just come back to my third clio 172 and realy is a great little car for so little out lay . Alan

Yeah are two great cars and im happy to drive either one .

They do look nice THO :)

I just sold my Teg for £ 250 all in with hose and bits . Alan

Sold up as moving hous again and needes topay some bills off . The engine and gear box of the CTR anr amazing but there is not a lot between the cars . They are tow cracking cars . Alan

Nice car i had the Gruppe M PRC inlet manifold ( DC5 inlet maniflod ) 2.5 B pipe and a DC5 4-2-1 Exhaust manifold . Car ran very nice with this set up . Gearbox was short shifter and solid bush and this was good and a JDM RARB was a must . Alan

Iv just sold my EP3 Civic and got a Ph 2 172 . Alan

Ok thanks .

Ok thanks comming from the CTR all the mod cons are a shock :) . Just out of intrest how do you turn the auto option off ? Alan

One last thing do the auto head lights come on when the light switch is on the off setting as mine do . Regards Alan

Also did all 2003 reg 172 come with a 6 disc changer ? Regards Alan

No it was justa normal 172 PH 2 Did a deal on it and collected it yesterday . Everything is working on it to my surprise and it drives very well . Forgot just how good they are TBH Alan

Ok thanks will be looking tonight and if all is ok this will be number 3 Clio Sport for me :)

Good As im after a non cup with the toys :)

Thath what i was thinking it has the light washer jets engine cover and all the other bits . Not to sure why it comes up on the data check as a cup mind . Alan

Can anyone letme know if the 172 Cup ever came with Xeons and leather/cloth seats . Reg GX03 KHG The Ad has it down as a cup and so does a data check I thought cups had no Xeons or leather seats ? Regards Alan Vehicle Information Make & Model Renault Clio Renaultsport 172 Cup VIN...

No going for a 182 i think car should be sold by this weekend if the wether does not get too bad . Alan

Might have a look when/if i sell the CTR

2002 CTR in NHB 120,000 Miles has had a fair few new parts on her and iv spent a lot of time and money on it so its a hard decision

To sum up I’mthinking about selling the Honda CTR and buying a Clio 182 . Just moving in to new flat after a split with the ex-so will be funding allbills myself . Thought are so far the Clio will be a tad better on fuel newer ( my CTR is on a02 plate ) and have some toys with it . The Civic...

Yeah there are a lot of problems with them that can come up . My one cost me a small fourtune but was running a ( FLEE MAP ) @ 270 BHP and 275 LB/FT . Had a sort of diff at the front to try and help with torque steer . Was good fun good old turbo lag too :)

Ah I see themost I did with my one was the larger throttle body from the ZR 160 and somelight breathing mods . Went quite well for a N/A 1.8 and the LSD and suspensionset up was very good indeed .

How about one of them 5 pot 20v turbo . This was my old one Cheep to buy just a lot to keep it running . I miss my one in a strange kind of way .

I had a BRM racing Green with the orange mouth and the red leather and chrome inside :) How did he get 200 BHP out of it ? drop the tomcat turbo engine in it ?

I can tell you a Vtec fan then :) Something with boost sounds much more up your street . The fact that you have to work the Vtec engine hard is part of its charm for me . It demands that you put the effot in or it will give you nothing in return . Alan

Had a go in a R32 4 door manual a few months back . Very nice car no faster than my EP3 but made a lovely noise . Only thing that would put me off would be the thirst of it . Alan

It is new and shinny :)

Not for me but then i just spent £ 58 on a FD2 gear knob from Japan :)